<p>In Canada, a woman can legally have an abortion up until the DAY before she is to give birth. Even most pro-choicers (or "pro-deathers" as I call them) are shocked by this. The abortionist injects a lethal poison into the baby, killing him/her, and then stabs at the baby with a sharp tool. The baby is then taken out in chunks.</p>
<p>The lifestyle at the top conservative colleges is described as follows by the "Colleges that Changes Lives" web site (<a href="http://www.ctcl.com):%5B/url%5D">www.ctcl.com):</a> </p>
<p>The school's support of "limited government," its role as "a defender of free markets and conservative values," and its emphasis on learning from "original texts" is appreciated by its largely "conservative, white, [and] Christian" students... </p>
<p> traditional values extend beyond the classroom: Students feel "pressure to find a mate by senior year </p>
<p>Regardless of their religious or ethnic backgrounds, students are "unified" by their very high religious standards.</p>
<p>Students here do not accept anything other than 100 percent manners, 100 percent class, 100 percent preppy, and 100 percent conservative all the time.".</p>
<p>" the conservative mainstream remains just that, and always will."</p>
<p> a campus environment "full of Christians that get along great with each other, but have a hard time knowing how to treat anyone that isn't exactly like them."</p>
<p> .to say the students on this campus "lean to the right" is a "drastic understatement."</p>
<p>Man, they’re so lame</p>
<p>who are so lame :) ?</p>
<p>A lot of the political and ethical disagreements between liberals and conservatives can be traced back to different views of related scientific and psychological issues. For example, if you interpret the psyhological data of child molesters such that they very rarely or never get reformed, then you'd probably be in favor of lock-'em-up-and-throw-away-the-key policies towards them. If you interpret the data to indicate there is a realistic chance of them getting reformed, then you might go for lighter sentences and increased therapy. </p>
<p>Or the debate over unemployment payments might on the surface appear to be a debate over whether to take care of people who are out of work. But look beneath that argument, and you'll see that the liberals usually base their view on the fact (or hope) that humans will strive to better themselves even if they don't have much incentive to. Whereas conservatives would be more likely to base their views on the premiss that people won't put forth much of an effort unless they HAVE to.</p>
<p>Once you look beneath a lot of arguments in this fashion, you'll see that the trend is that liberals seem to have a more optimistic view of humans, and they often put faith in the way things "ought to be." Whereas conservatives seem to see things less optimistically, and put faith in the way things ARE in the cold light of reality (e.g., people are pretty lazy, and if they can get by without working, they will) rather than what they ought to be.</p>
<p>Politics made EZ
Conservative- Leave it to Beaver
Liberal- Chappelle's Show</p>
<p>Guide to becoming a Conservative:
1. Bend down
2. Have friend insert pool cue real far
3. Put a Jesus Phish on the back of the pickup that u shout obscenties from
4. When a non-white or non-Christian mailman walks by ur house, lock door and hide behind curtains
5. Get real uncomfortable or start giggling when ppl talk about sex
6. Either vote for a Republican or jam a dining utensil into an electrical socket. Same effect produced.</p>
<p>God Bless America.</p>
<p>If you don't have any vision for the future, is there any way to make it better? If there's a way that human's "ought to be", shouldn't we be striving towards that, rather than keeping things the way they are or even regressing?</p>
<p>Many ideas just aren't realistic.</p>
<p>If by "realistic" you mean easy to execute, then I would tend to agree. However, many ideas would be a great help, and wouldn't take a lot of effort to put into place. Even if something isn't easy, if you persevere and make the right decisions, society will eventually change for the better. (I'm starting to sound like someone's grandmother, aren't I?)</p>
<p>liberals are gutless sissies
what now?</p>
<p>Fiscal conservativism is the most practical and allows for the most ammount of economic freedom.</p>
<p>that's nice. now what fiscal policy allows for the greatest quality of life for all?</p>
<p>basically my point is we need a balance. neither pure fiscal conservatism nor pure fiscal liberalism is the answer.</p>
<p>Pure fiscal conservativism is the most fair and efficient. Fiscal liberalism is retarded. Taxes are a gov't sanctioned mugging.</p>
<p>Anyways I consider myself a laissez-faire liberal, or a modern day libertarian</p>
<p>Quality of life that requires victims is no quality whatsoever, Mallomar.</p>
<p>Tommeister, the point is hoping people are a certain way doesn't make it so. Obviously child molesters OUGHT to be better people than they are, but that doesn't make it true that they CAN be. And liberals seem to play fast-and-loose with other people's safety while their utopia develops. Why don't YOU move your family next to a convicted child molester's house? Reminds me of the people living in denial about Michael Jackson, even after he talks about sleeping with little kids.</p>
<p>For the record, conservatives aren't against change... we just think it should happen slowly, not overnight. This is because we understand that big changes in society have consequences -- sometimes dire consequences. (For instance, what effects will homosexual marriages have on the family and on children raised within them? It might not all be peaches and sunshine.) We want to see what these consequences will be before we move onto the next step. In short, we want to test the waters a bit before we plunge in head-first. We love our countries, similiar to how a parent loves their children, and we don't want to see our way of life hurt or destroyed.</p>
<p>Liberals don't think like this. If it seems like a good idea to them on paper, they just do it, not thinking about what effects it may have on society. It's like a game to them.</p>
<p>It really depends on how you define the word "conservative". Many people consider the libertarians to be conservative and the republicans to be reactionairies. To say the libertarians are not 'progressive' would be ridiculous.</p>
<p>Sometimes it isn't a good thing to have change happen slowly. If you ,"want to test the waters a bit before we plunge in head-first." You might chicken out of doing something that would be a good idea. People should have as much freedom as possible, and conservative acts like The Patriot Act, are limiting these freedoms greatly. The longer we wait to pass legislation that gives people more or equal rights, the longer these people have to suffer.</p>
<p>Conservatives $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's keeps things just the way they are...</p>
<p>No shlt uncle pennybags!!</p>
<p>What baffles me is that the rest of us (¢¢) dont all vote democrat- it seems that poor-as-shlt southernors or other wimps get hung up on the meaningless social issues like 'i hate gaeys!' and 'support our troops!'. Meanwhile, obscenely wealthy republican elite laugh their a$$es off when they see that they've convinced half of the poor-American-slob majority to vote against itself. Christ people!</p>
<p>O yeah, and about this whole 'defining ideologies' bltch-fight this board is having- its simple- everybody undestands it-
conservatives- favor safety, control- more defense, harsher crime punisment, u cant jus do watver u want, etc. They fear the people.
liberals- favor liberty, freedom- abortion ok (choice) gay marraige (freedom to choose), etc. etc. i dunno jus some ex's. Fear excessive gov. </p>
<p>In short, the Elephant party wants to put all the poor people in cages (they're unpredictable and icky! Minorites want to rob us of our oil fortunes!!)</p>
<p>The Donkey party is tired of having Big Brother (Bush + legion of doom) watching, and figures that man is decent enough to decide things for himself, that not everybody has to act like the Brady Bunch and the Cleaver family (conservatives: "blasphemy!") to be considered respectable people.</p>
<p>Republicans hate individuality- their voters look down upon ethnic minorities and ppl that make < 100k a year. Democrats are more human than that. I know that u Republicans think this nation is your country club, but come midterms, the people (hopefully) are gonna kick in the door.</p>
<p>PATRIOT Act = big government = statist = NOT conservative.</p>