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Boalt Hall (UC Berkeley's Law School) had a pretty good scale by which they could assess the difficulty of getting an A certain schools. Schools with higher numbers mean it is more difficult and thus are relatively grade deflated
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<p>That's not what it means. Not exactly. It is a combination of factors. Higher numbers basically means that a person with that particular GPA is * more likely * to be successful in law school than the GPA would indicate. Hence, it is really a combination of grade deflation * and * how well a particular school prepares students for law school.</p>
<p>Case in point, take the fact that Harvard and Princeton actually have higher Boalt numbers than MIT does. Yet I think even most Harvard and Princeton students would concede that their grading is inflated relative to MIT's. If nothing else, it's practically impossible to actually flunk out of Harvard or Princeton. As long as you do the bare minimum of work, you're going to pass. Maybe not with great grades, but you're going to pass. In contrast, it is very possible to flunk out of MIT even if you do work hard. </p>
<p>What puts Harvard and Princeton over the top is that the 2 schools probably prepare students law school better than MIT does. I think most MIT alumni would agree that, except for greatly improving your work ethic, MIT is probably not the greatest place for a future lawyer to be educated.</p>
<p>MIT is probably not the 'greatest' place for a futue lawyer to be educated, but I wouldn't cast it away either. MIT has one of the top politics departments, as well as majors in the humanities, and economics, all of which prepare students in ways that would be beneficial in law school. I would say Caltech would be a worse place to prepare for law school.</p>
<p>Harvard - hard to flunk out but also hard to get an A</p>
<p>^^ most elite schools are like that, i can speak personally for one i attend... it is VERY difficult to receive an A in most cases, however the majority of grades handed out are in the B range.</p>
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You have to work very hard for an A
or really **** up for a C</p>
<p>to flunk out you would probably need to literally do no work. like not attend lecture or look at a book.</p>
<p>Any one out there who can tell me where to get more information on the Boalt Hall list that is shown above.</p>
<p>It depends on your major. My brother graduated from Princeton and said the history major is brutal. My cousin went to Ohio Wesleyan and said: "God have mercy on your soul if you are a science major." There is a lot of variability.</p>
<p>Science major = very terrible everywhere usually, history I've heard is an easier one</p>
<p>Hopkins: "Where your best hasn't been good enough since 1876"</p>
<p>But who wants to go to school in Baltimore? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Hey, I actually LIKE Baltimore.</p>
<p>W&M has a tough reputation. Its not easy but a good school shouldnt be a cakewalk. I think the rep gets exaggerated some by UVA kids who spin that W&M is too tough.</p>
<p>Baltimore is awesome if you know which areas to stay away from..</p>
<p>Case Western is known for having a tough workload- mainly in science/engineering</p>
<h1>1: Swartmore</h1>
<h1>2: Williams</h1>
<h1>3: Duke</h1>
<h1>4: Carleton</h1>
<p>That's the Boalt scale again.</p>
<p>I'm at Princeton, and I agree with elsijfdl. Hard to flunk out, but only if the gods smile on you will you even hope to get an A.</p>
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MIT is probably not the 'greatest' place for a futue lawyer to be educated, but I wouldn't cast it away either. MIT has one of the top politics departments, as well as majors in the humanities, and economics, all of which prepare students in ways that would be beneficial in law school. I would say Caltech would be a worse place to prepare for law school.
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<p>Sure, Caltech would be worse. But even at MIT, whatever you major, you have to pass the General Institute Requirements, which include a bunch of difficult science and math courses in which just avoiding failing is a major accomplishment. Doesn't matter if you major in Literature at MIT, you still have to fulfill those GIR's. </p>
<p>In contrast, at HYPS, if you just don't want to take difficult technical courses, you just avoid them completely. You can fulfill whatever tech breadth requirement you may have by cherry-picking some super-cheesepuff classes (i.e. Physics for Poets or whatever is the equivalent at your school).</p>
<p>I'm surprised that Duke is on the same page as Swarthmore in terms of additions to GPA...I think its more a case of kids with lower GPA's and higher LSAT's applying</p>
<p>Also, at Chicago, just because the students go out less doesn't mean they work harder for their grades. </p>
<p>The students at Chicago have an average LSAT score/SAT score/HS GPA that is near several other schools where the kids go out a great deal more, all while having a similar median college GPA (in the area of 3.2-3.3).</p>
<p>Well guys, the data are at least 10 years old. Many school may have bump up their grade inflation since then.</p>
<p>Also, I guess the data were based on stats of applicants for Berkeley law school? How many applicants applied to Berkeley from each of those schools anyway, especially the east coast ones? The uncertainty level is gonna be high for those schools with only few applicants (i.e. those appear low on the list could be ranked high and vice versa if large enough number of samples are collected). We all know how statistically unsound many rankings out there are and I am very skeptical about this one.</p>