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s also very highly rated, as is our pre-med program.
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@lbad96 where are these ratings for “highly rated” pre-med programs…especially those that include UNCW?
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@kraftmacncheese There’s much about the whole premed process that may seem counter-intuitive…including the misunderstanding that premeds need to go to elite undergrads. Absolutely not. In fact, it can be a big risk to go to an elite undergrad as a premed, particularly if your stats aren’t very high for the school.
There is a lot of weeding that goes on in the premed prereqs. That typically means that they limit the number of As and B’s given.
@mom2collegekids lol I know you think Bama is the world’s best school, but there are many better schools…such as UNCW and UMass Amherst.
Let me correct myself. East Carolina University is the best university in NC for pre-med programs, although UNCW is far, far better overall. UNCW is very good for pre-med too, though.
“No way that U Mass is better than UNCW in any sense.”
– posted by @LBad96 on this thread (39).
“Definitely U Mass Amherst”
– Posted by @LBad96 in reply to a “Dream School?” thread, 12/30/14.
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@merc81 now is that really necessary? Why must you feel the need to search my entire post history??
Things change over time. I don’t like that school anymore. And there’s actually only one school of that four that I don’t hold some sort of grudge against lol
Surprising that these lists of automatic and competitive full tuition to full ride scholarships has not been posted here yet:
http://automaticfulltuition.yolasite.com/
http://competitivefulltuition.yolasite.com/
The OP may want to see which ones s/he may qualify for.
@LBad96: It’s less personal than it seems. However, if you are posting unfavorably regarding any school because of a grudge, then your history as a poster should be made available to OPs who are still in the early stages of making a very important decision.
@merc81 yeah, I may be a bit salty, but my posting history is totally irrelevant. Everyone has that one school they’re salty against.
@mom2coIIegekids I didn’t know any of this so thank you for giving me some insight. However, my parents are harder to convince. They want me to go to a top university even though I explained the crushing amount of debt it will result in. Any ideas/websites that you know of that could help me change their minds??
@kraftmacncheese Have your parents run any of the net price calculators to see what kind of aid might be available to you at your target schools? You said their income is 200K, which sounds like a lot, but not if they are paying tuition for siblings, either private high schools or universities. They also might have professional or medical expenses that offset income. If that’s the case, it’s possible that you might qualify for something. Barring extenuating circumstances, however, I doubt it would be a whole lot.
Anyhow, going through this exercise with them will show them how much your target universities think is reasonable for them to pay. They may have an unrealistic idea of what the actual cost of “top universities” is. If you go through a few of these and are being told that the expected family contribution is on the order of 40K or more per year, maybe that will shift their thinking - either in the direction of funding more than your room & board - or of reconciling themselves that you might end up at a lesser “name” that is nonetheless an excellent school.
Really, most universities will provide a solid foundation for the MCAT. That plus a high GPA should ensure that you will have many choices when you apply to medical schools.
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@mom2collegekids lol I know you think Bama is the world’s best school, but there are many better schools…such as UNCW and UMass Amherst.
Let me correct myself. East Carolina University is the best university in NC for pre-med programs, although UNCW is far, far better overall. UNCW is very good for pre-med too, though.
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Don’t be silly.
UNCW isn’t better than UMass Amherst.
As for Bama, I do recommend it for high stats students who will be pursuing serious majors and who want large merit. Because of the large number of high stats students, a student accepting larger merit for high stats will still be surrounded by other strong students.
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But, now that I know that UMass rejected you, and therefore you don’t like that school anymore, I understand why you feel as you do. I’m glad that you’re happy at UNCW.
I’m still waiting to see the source for your “premed ratings”.
Even UMass will be unaffordable if your parents are only willing to pay room and board. Tuition and Fees are more than $5500.
Study hard for your SAT’s because it sounds like you need close to a full tuition merit scholarship. Run the NPCs of the schools on your list. I think you will find that many are unaffordable given your parents refusal to pay anything.
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Frankly, they need to put their money where their “wants” are. No parent should be saying, “we want you to go to XX, but we won’t pay for it, so you’ll have to take a mountain of debt.” “Wants” cost money.
I know this sounds harsh, but it’s an immature side that your parents are displaying…being high income, demanding that you go to a top school, but refusing to pay for it and insisting that you take on huge debt. But, I know that as the child in the family, you are limited in how you can “take them on.”
In the meantime, just to keep them quiet, apply to a few schools that they want, but ALSO apply to a few schools that you know FOR SURE that you will get very large merit, which would mean little or no debt.
lol…one way you could get them off your back is to pretend, at some point, that you are having second thoughts about being a doctor. Right now, they think it’s ok for you to have that debt because they know that Anesthesiologists make a lot of money. Or you could say…I may decide to become a pediatrician, but they earn the lowest so debt isn’t a good idea.
It’s your life. you’re only 17. It’s very possible that you may change your mind at some point anyway.
You’re only a junior (I forgot that)…you have time…to convince them that you may change your mind about your career. If you do try that route with them, don’t do it while talking money. Just casually say something like, “I’m not sure I want to be a doctor. So many years of college. I’ll be so old when I finish. I may need to keep my options open.”
If they still give your grief, then just calmly but firmly say that you’re not going to take on debt that would FORCE you to pursue a career that may end up not being right for you.
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Take off… UCLA and UW. UW would be a waste since you can’t get into their SOM. UCLA would be a waste since Calif has too many premeds, UCLA has too many premeds…and the competition would be awful and you’d likely get weeded out. UCLA is over-priced for an OOS premed. Premed advising is poor and they don’t write Committee Letters.
BTW…do you have a non custodial parent? If so, and you do apply for aid, many of those other schools will insist on his info as well.
@LBad96 “Let me correct myself. East Carolina University is the best university in NC for pre-med programs, although UNCW is far, far better overall. UNCW is very good for pre-med too, though.”
What about UNC-Chapel Hill and Duke?
@mamaedefamilia oh gosh. Once again, my mistake. ECU is third, I think.
@mom2coIIegekids UMass isn’t better than us, either. They’re on par with each other, if UNCW isn’t better.
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@LBad96 Is there ANY school you’ll admit is better than UNCW? It’s kind of amusing how you seem to believe that a branch campus of the UNC system is better than almost every flagship university in the US (and, frankly, even more amusing now that I know that Umass Amherst was your dream school!).
If you don’t want someone to search your post history…well, don’t post something you’ll regret in the first place! Too funny.
@LBad96, at one time you were also harping about UPitt main not accepting you. If UNCW is the perfect fit for you that’s great, but that doesn’t mean it’s the perfect school for everyone. Don’t begrudge other (higher stats) students their chance to go to a school (other than UNCW) that would give them full tuition. Especially if it would be guaranteed as is the case with UA (or Temple).
@mom2collegekids that made me laugh, in all honesty. But I tend to use star ratings.
@Qwerty568 UNCW is a 4 star school on a 5 star scale. There are NUMEROUS schools that are better than mine. I didn’t say almost every flagship in the US, in fact only UMass and UAlabama were mentioned. However, since you want me to name almost every flagship in the US, I will say without uncertainty that it academically eclipses the state flagships of Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
UNCW is also most certainly equal to and worthy of the state flagships of Colorado, Delaware, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, Oregon, and South Carolina. I should also mention that it’s on par with schools such as Michigan State, Florida State, South Florida, Central Florida, TCNJ, Stevens, Baylor, Texas A&M, and Stony Brook, and is slightly better than Temple, UBuffalo, and Rowan. Also, it’s far better than Arizona State. The flagships in the states that I didn’t mention are better than UNCW.
North Carolina is the fourth best state for higher education in the country based on the quality of its colleges and universities, both public and private, behind Massachusetts, California, and New York. UNC Wilmington is the sixth best school in the state (behind Duke, Chapel Hill, Wake Forest, NC State, and Davidson). That means that it’s clearly better than a ton of schools out there. And if you really want to make the “branch campus vs state flagship” argument do you really think a Californian branch campus is stronger than North Carolina’s state flagship?
I admit, UNCW isn’t for everyone. Some people don’t fit in with the laid-back and chill environment. But then again, a lot of people do. Just because UA would give high-stats students full tuition, doesn’t make it a good fit for everyone.
I don’t at all regret what I said at the time, but obviously people change over time. If I could do it all over again, I wouldn’t have wasted my time applying to UMass knowing that they blatantly ignore an entire section of the SAT. I would have cut a few other schools as well.
@mommdc I know what you’re referring to. If you read what I was saying properly, you’d have picked up that wasn’t upset about Pitt rejecting me at all. I was more laughing at the fact that Pitt-Johnstown really expected me to attend their school. Like, really?
@Lbad96, Temple is not a state flagship. Penn State and U Pitt are not state flagships either.
U Pitt Johnstown is a branch campus of U Pitt, just as UNCW is a branch of UNC. You would still get out of NJ attending there and could have transferred later to U Pitt main if you had wanted to and with a raised GPA.
I hope you never have to apply to any of the schools you listed above that you deemed inferior to UNCW.