<p>Biochemistry at USC, Freshman Science Honors Program</p>
<p>Biochemistry at UIUC, James Scholar Honors Program</p>
<p>Biochemistry at Univ. Miami, Honors Program</p>
<p>Biochemistry at KU, Honors Program</p>
<p>I also got into SLU into their Biochemistry, but I really don't plan on going there.</p>
<p>What are you guys' educated opinions on this issue?</p>
<p>I also have to think about the MCAT and grades. I want to go to a pretty good Medical School because as we all know where you go for residency is a correlation to the amount of money you will make, as with the specialty.</p>
<p>Lets see what you guys have to say.</p>
<p>PS. KU is about 9K, Miami is about 20, SLU is 26, UIUC is 33 (I am trying to get resident status), USC is 35K (I am going to appeal the scholarship)</p>
<p>You don't have to go to the best medical school to get into a competitive speciality. It'll help but only you can land yourself there. The USMLE is what will be the deciding factor for your residency. And money shouldn't be a worry of yours should it? Considering doctors are making less and less.</p>
<p>If you are interested in medicine for the money, you are going to be sorely disappointed.</p>
<p>First by the admission committees who will be able to sniff that during the interviews.</p>
<p>And secondly by the actual pay itself has salary has dropped for doctors due to HMO's and the medical malpractice situation</p>
<p>I would make sure you truly want to do medicine for another reason (a desire to help people, genuine academic interest in the topic, etc.. etc...) before picking from those schools.</p>
<p>ok I came off as being totally wrong. I know the situation with all the HMOs and malpractice insurance. I am just going off the advice of my uncle who told me that if you are gonna be a doctor, might as well try to the best pay possible. I personally want to be a doctor because I really enjoyed shadowing my uncle.</p>
<p>it's not just the money, being a doctor has many benefits, you have job security, you make a decent amount of money, and its not a god damn desk job. i need the socialization etc.</p>
<p>Neal- If you are 100% sure you want to be a doctor, go with UMKC. From what I hear, it's a great program and you are in the hospital gaining clinical skills from Day 1. Plus, you don't have to go through the hassle of studying for and taking the MCAT.</p>
<p>The other way to approach it is to enter USC and amass amazing grades and a stellar MCAT score. That will allow you to enter a better medical school (although UMKC is fairly decent already) and that would give you a very tiny advantage in securing a rarer and "more profitable" residency program.</p>
<p>The problem with this plan is that if you are in this for the money, I doubt you will get out. That's 4 years of busting your tail off, another 4 years in med school of the same hard work ethic, and 3-5 years of being dirt poor and being dumped on as a resident.</p>
<p>All in all, you need to have the proper motivation to get through all that and money alone probably wouldn't be able to push me through all that.</p>
<p>I'm not just in it for the money. I'm letting that be known. I've always grown up with a high moral standard. My dad/mom are hard working engineers/computer software analysts that have taught me you do not get anywhere with life. My uncle is a cardiologist that talks about life during residency when it was hard. I know of the effort, I am not a moron. I have shadowed many doctors and I like what I see. If I was a greedy piece I wouldn't shadow 100 hrs a summer or go work in the soup kitchens. If you knew me, you would know that. I also am not retarded and I realize that doctors make a lot of money. If I am going to work hard to finish med school, which I am, I might as well try to get the best that I can. That is where I am coming from. According to my uncle, you go to the Residency Program that is best for your specialty, and you will get a good job. You go to a mediocre one, and your prospects dwindle. EG. KU medical center vs SUNY Upstate Syracuse for cardiology. that is where I am coming from.</p>
<p>haha, you've got the rite idea, and dont worry too much bout the med skool. You can still go to a mediocre med skool ( for ex. umkc) and land a top residency as long as u place high in your med class and u do well on ur boards. I can see where your coming from and physicians get paid accordingly for the long hours they work and the sacrifices they make through med skool and residency. And, along with other factors, the salary is important when you are paying around 50k/year for med skool.</p>
<p>thank you for finally understanding my point. i'm just confused as to what route i should take because I dont know how to compare apples to oranges, thats why i was comparing all of the regular undergrads and then going to go from there.</p>
<p>i dont know hwy i keep justifying myself but lets say i graduate from KU, KU med and then am content with my life, i get paid 100K a year which is fine with me as long as i dont work like 8 days a week. ide be content, but, if i can go to wash u (just picking 2 random ones that are on opposite ends) and then leave the midwest and make more money for working the same job, then who would be stupid enough to stay in the midwest.</p>
<p>ANYWAYS we have strayed enough, what would be the best undergrad to go to assuming i do not want to go to UMKC and its 6 year program? the options are at the top of the post, ignore all the crap in between.</p>
<p>at USC during explore USC, there were 75% asians there that all said premed. thats pretty scary. i know miami has a lot less asians if that helps inflate grades a little.</p>
<p>That's a good point. Too many asians just causes added competition. And i have some friends that are freshman at UM doin premed and they said that it's pretty easy to maintain a high gpa at UM. Plus ur gettin more money from UM.</p>