What should I put for race?

<p>Some colleges may limit hispanic URM to Mexicans since most second-generation cuban americans come from families that were highly educated or upper class in Cuba. My advice is to not check caucasian as it can only hurt you.</p>

<p>I am african-american, what would be the sat range I would need to get into say NYU CAS as a Transfer</p>

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<p>Short answer: I'm not at all sure. </p>

<p>Long answer: Here are the SAT figures for the class that entered NYU in fall 2007. </p>

<p>College</a> Search - New York University - NYU - SAT®, AP®, CLEP® </p>

<p>In general, most enrolled students at NYU that year scored 620 or higher on each section of the SAT. </p>

<p>If you are studying successfully in another college before transfering, your grades in that college may help make your case for being admitted as a transfer student. A related page about NYU on the College Board site </p>

<p>College</a> Search - New York University - NYU - Admission </p>

<p>says "Transfer Students</p>

<pre><code>* Total number of transfer students who applied: 5,390
* Total number of transfer students who were admitted: 1,416
</code></pre>

<p>which shows that NYU is willing to admit quite a few transfer students each year. </p>

<p>Writing good application essays and getting good recommendations (from a current college teacher, I suppose) should also help your application, according to what NYU says about its requirements.</p>

<p>hi i was just wondering if being Uzbek is a minority. Uzbek is like a Muslim/Iranian, Asian. kind of.. I understand middle easterners, like Saudi Arabian, Persian.. are considered white and asians are not a minority, so is Uzbek considered one?</p>

<p>For some apps it only lets me choose one ethnicity, so should i pick other and say part Russian(white) and part Uzbek, or just Uzbek, or just White?</p>

<p>I know my friend is less than 25 percent hispanic, but he is just putting hispanic on his app</p>

<p>Honestly, different schools have different standards for who is considered a minority. I have a friend who got a minority fellowship from her grad program because she's half-Basque, and they consider Basque a Hispanic subgroup at that university. She didn't lie or cheat the system in any way (though she was very surprised to find out that she qualified for a minority fellowship by accurately stating her ethnicity).</p>

<p>What constitutes "white" is not universally agreed upon. I think the US Census definition is ridiculous, myself.</p>

<p>Most people in this country won't recognize "Uzbek", but they will recognize "Middle Eastern". You could always choose "other" and say "Half-white, half-Middle Eastern" (if they count Middle Eastern as white, let <em>them</em> deal). Or you could just put "white". Or you could call them and ask for advice. There's no one right answer here.</p>

<p>Well, there is a federally approved answer here, and (to give an example frequently asked about) it would plainly violate the federal definitions for an Afrikaner-descended white person from the Republic of South Africa to call himself "African American" on a college application. On the other hand, the science is certainly on the side of the idea that differences in race are superficial at the most. We are all more closely related to one another as fellow human beings than any of us are separated from one another by differences in race or ethnicity. That's why I advise my family to simply omit marking any race or ethnicity on college forms. (In normal conversation in the United States, my children would be considered "biracial" and could mark at least two of the categories on a standard federal race and ethnicity questionnaire.)</p>

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just wondering if being Uzbek is a minority.

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<p>It may be of interest to a particular college, and is definitely worth mentioning in a college application to establish context, but it may not provide an admission boost. Uzbekistan is better considered part of the Middle East than part of South Asia, so by the federal definitions "white" would be the expected race category for an Uzbek to mark on college forms, even though many Uzbeks look Eurasian or fully east Asian to the eyes of many European-descended Americans. </p>

<p>Yeah, I know, all these definitions are debatable. I said that back in post</a> #2 in this thread.</p>

<p>Link to a description of an interesting museum exhibit on "race," now traveling around the country. </p>

<p>RACE</a> :: Are We So Different? Exhibit</p>

<p>I am Jewish by blood but not by religion. For the PSAT I identified myself as other because from now on I'm considering myself Jewish instead of white. First of all, do colleges even consider Jews a minority and if they did, could it help me get in?</p>

<p>what? since when was judaism a ethnicity?
it's a religion</p>

<p>Well it was officially declared a race by the Supreme Court but it was primarily for anti-discrimination laws. So I'm wondering if colleges truly consider it a race.</p>

<p>At least at the Ivies, Jewish students are not a URM. Although I am not Jewish, I do use the Hillel service that lists the most popular (& therefore, most populated) colleges & universities in terms of percent & numbers of Jewish undergrads.
The Top Schools Jewish Students attend are, in order by number of Jewish students: (Private Schools)</p>

<p>NYU
Boston Univ.
Cornell Univ.
Penn
Yeshiva
George Washington Univ.
Syracuse
Emory
Columbia
Harvard
Tulane
Brandeis
Northwestern
WashUStL
USC Univ. of Miami
Brown
Tufts
U. of Hartford
Hofstra
LIU
Yale
American
Barnard
Northeastern
Pratt
Vanderbilt
Oberlin
Univ. of Denver
U. of Rochester</p>

<p>Most people consider "Jewishness" as both an ethnicity and a religion. However, it is not an under represented minority and is usually not a help for admission. I have heard that some schools in the South have been actively seeking to boost their Jewish population, though, so maybe in that case it could help. I think there is a thread on that subject.</p>

<p>There's a difference between the religion Judaism and the Jewish ethnic groups.</p>

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Well it [Jewishness] was officially declared a race by the Supreme Court but it was primarily for anti-discrimination laws.

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<p>I asked for a court citation the last time that statement was made on College Confidential, but no one replied with a case citation. Anything the Supreme Court does has a citation, so I am dubious about this statement as it has been made in a few CC threads. Anyway, the statement doesn't pertain to college admission policies. </p>

<p>What colleges ask about when they inquire about student race or ethnicity is described in considerable detail in the first few posts of this FAQ thread (into which raiderade's thread has been merged, in the interest of helping everyone find accurate information). Especially post</a> #2 links to the official federal definitions of the race categories currently regarded by the federal government, and links also to the most recent Department of Education regulation on how colleges should ask about student ethnicity. Check the facts. </p>

<p>The statement made in a reply above is correct that some colleges in the southern United States have announced student recruiting goals that include increasing their number of Jewish students. Vanderbilt announced such a goal a while ago and has greatly boosted the number of Jewish students on campus. Colleges are always free to consider any diversity factor they please when recruiting students, as long as they don't discriminate in manners prohibited by law.</p>

<p>By percentage of Jewish students:</p>

<p>Yeshiva 94%
Brandeis 62%
Barnard 44%
SUNY Oneonta 36%
Emory 34%
Pratt Institute 32%
U. of Hartford 32%
GWU 32%
Tufts 32%
Muhlenberg 31%
Penn 31%
Harvard & Radcliffe 30%
Reed 30%
CUNY Brooklyn 30%
Goucher 30%
SUNY Binghamton 30%
SUNY Albany 29%
Sarah Lawrence 29%
Hampshire 28%
Wesleyan 27%</p>

<p>PUBLIC SCHOOLS by number of Jewish students:</p>

<p>Florida
Central Florida
Maryland
York Univ. (Canada)
Rutgers N.B.
Texas
Penn State
Wisconsin
Michigan
FIU
SUNY Albany
South Florida
Indiana
Arizona
Queens College (NYC)
Ohio State
Toronto
Fla. State Univ. (FSU)
Western Ontario
UCLA
McGill
SUNY Binghamton
CUNY-Brooklyn
Illinois
Cal State-Northridge
UC Santa Cruz
Michigan State
San Diego State
UC Davis
Arizona State (ASU)</p>

<p>Hi, ColdWind, thanks for posting the listings of colleges by percentages and numbers of Jewish students. I think you know this, but it's probably worth pointing out to other readers that all such figures are unofficial. There is no official data-gathering by the category "Jewish" in the United States, and colleges generally do NOT ask for student self-identification by that category on any form published by the college. But I'm sure it is of interest to some students where one might find a lot of Jewish students, so no doubt Hillel and other nongovernmental organizations make their best efforts to gather these data through unofficial, voluntary channels.</p>

<p>Dartmouth, Princeton & Brown do not appear in the above lists, but all have a high percentage of Jewish students when compared to the percent of Jewish people in the American population (which may be less than two (2%) percent of the nation's population).
Dartmouth College was the first Ivy to have a Jewish president.
Being Jewish would not be considered an admissions advantage as an URM at any of the schools that I have listed in this thread.</p>

<p>i'm a happa. Half asian, half european. some colleges don't offer multiracial in their ethnicity selection. Do you suggest I put that i am asian or white?</p>