<p>T26E4, you're right. im extremely riled up now. this is ridiculous.</p>
<p>op, you dont think you are smart enough to get in the college you want? well thats a indication of you shouldnt belong there..</p>
<p>I agree with VASkinsFan</p>
<p>yeap just write that your black.
better chance</p>
<p>being black is not a way to "score points"
being black is simply being from a group that statistically has not been offered the same advantage as majority students. this disadvantage also applies to other minority groups (native american, hispanic, ect.) and those of lower socioeconomic classes.</p>
<p>it is a sad day, indeed, when being disadvantaged suddenly becomes a cheap scam to scoring points. think before you post things, please.</p>
<p>w/e dude....</p>
<p>w/e dude.... actually sure w/e put what u want. more chances for others</p>
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being black is not a way to "score points"
being black is simply being from a group that statistically has not been offered the same advantage as majority students. this disadvantage also applies to other minority groups (native american, hispanic, ect.) and those of lower socioeconomic classes.</p>
<p>it is a sad day, indeed, when being disadvantaged suddenly becomes a cheap scam to scoring points. think before you post things, please.
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If somebody grows up in the exact same environment as a white student(has well off parents, goes to a solid public HS) and does similarly academically, they will certainly "score points" based on their race.
Admissions officials see what high school somebody comes from, where they live, there are plenty of opportunities to give somebody additional consideration if the college officials think that they have "not been offered the same advantage" as the students they are competing with, and race needs not play any part.
Just because they are from a group that has been discriminated against in the past does not warrant any additional need. If somebody was disadvantaged them self, they have ways of letting an admissions office know this besides checking a box saying they are black. In the present system, race is absolutely a way to score points on an application.</p>
<p>^ That's right... now this is just turning into the same old AA thread... </p>
<p>Why do people assume that certain minority groups applying to selective colleges have not had the same opportunities as other applicants? Can't a white person not be of low income? Couldn't an Asian also suffer the effects of racial discrimination?</p>
<p>MODERATOR'S NOTE TO "African American?" THREAD: </p>
<p>The thread has been merged into this preexisting FAQ thread, where the very question asked in the newly merged thread was asked and answered just days ago. </p>
<p>Read the first few posts of this FAQ & Discussion thread for links to official definitions. No, a person of Dutch and other European ancestry who grew up in the Republic of South Africa cannot legitimately check the "Black or African American" box on a college ethnic identification form.</p>
<p>Well, the colleges claim that I can declare my own race or keep in hidden, that it's my choice. I see a major flaw with that: </p>
<p>I can choose not to define myself to a particular race. However, that will not shield them from seeing my blatantly Asian last name. </p>
<p>What's the point of putting "other", then? :P</p>
<p>As I wrote above, "Read the first few posts of this FAQ & Discussion thread for links," including the links I didn't mention immediately above, but have mentioned elsewhere in the thread, showing that colleges admit a lot of students about whom they don't report any ethnic category. </p>
<p>I would like to know if mixed-race, say a chinese or white mixed with african person can use affirmative action? would they be considered URM? Will this person get more affirmative action than a full black? because mixes seem even more underrepresented. thanks!</p>
<p>Colleges all set their own policies. It's hard to say whether a person with (for example) one Chinese parent and one many generations "white' American parent is treated the same was as a person with one "black" parent, whatever the national origin of the black parent. Colleges don't provide sufficient information about their policies to be sure of what applicants they prefer. But see the first post or two in this thread for Aa link to a Federal Register notice on the issue of how applicants who check more than one racial or ethnic category will be classified in the federal reporting after this school year.</p>
<p>If you think a school is going to discriminate against you because of your asian last name, why would you want to go there?</p>
<p>I go to a private school, and there was a wealthy black kid
in my class last year. He was pretty bright but he never did his
homework...is there any clearer way of saying "I don't care
about this class" than that? And then he got a 2150 and went
to Penn. It's frustrating because I saw kids who were smarter and
more motivated(but not black) get rejected from the same school.</p>
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He was pretty bright but he never did his
homework.
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<p>That's actually a fairly common pattern among gifted students in underchallenging classes. That's dangerous to admission chances to do--I'd rather find my children more challenging classes, if they are bored with the classes in the friendly local school.</p>
<p>I'm half white and half chinese.... so for the schools that do not use the common app, is it correct to put "other" or "multiracial" ? I know this is probably a common sense question, but I don't want colleges to think I'm an URM b/c I'm not.</p>
<p>Unless you specify the category of URM, you will not be treated as one.</p>
<p>Neither Chinese or White is considered URM.
Put what you are comfortable with and what you feel is accurate.</p>
<p>The apps that have the "other" or "multiracial" box don't ask for specifications. They also don't allow me to tick more than one box, like the common app does.</p>