<p>The websites for the two courses are unavailable at this point. So could anyone taking these courses help me? (Please list ISBN #, author, edition #, and publisher) Thanx!</p>
<p>i believe CH33 is using Chemical Principles by Zuhmdal</p>
<p>5th edition</p>
<p>Don't take chem10 unless you're absolutely hopeless after giving 33 a try for 2 weeks.</p>
<p>Wow, Chill folks</p>
<p>why not take chem 10? if one plans to be premed shouldn't they take chem 10 and chem 33 freshman year and then orgo chem......if i took chem 33 in the fall, wouldn't i have to take chem 35 (orgo) chem in the spring?</p>
<p>do not take chem 10!!! it's a completely worthless bs class. plus, it's only taught in the spring; if you take it, you put yourself behind. just don't bother to take chem first-year if you're thinking of taking chem 10. also, chem 35 is only taught spring semester.</p>
<p>i wanna know too. what textbook is used in chem10?</p>
<p>JUST SHOP CHEM 33! Everyone has to take it, even people with 5's on the AP chem exam. It's not worth it to just assume you're not good enough. There's even a placement test two weeks into chem 10 to weed out the people who should be in the more advanced class. If you took even basic chem in high school, take 33.</p>
<p>Even if you do poorly in Chem 33, they have Chem 33T which is an option you can take to not get a grade the first semester and continue into second semester with a smaller more personal class.</p>
<p>Chem 33 is easy, really not that bad, and if you're that concerned, take it with Rose-Petruck. I can't imagine you would even consider taking Chemistry and can be attending Brown and not handle Rose-Petruck's chem class.</p>
<p>Stop being over anxious, stop getting worked up, it's really not a big deal.</p>
<p>i'm not worried about take chem 33. what i'm worried about is a medical school saying that i didn't take general chem 1 because chem 33 is general chem 2. I don't know if they'll like that since they say 1 year of general chem. i'm also worried about taking chem 35 my spring semester at brown. i'm just worried that medical schools will want me to take general chem 1 and not skip straight to 2.</p>
<p>i recommendppl not to take chem10....not everyone has to take chem33...if you have done IB or A Level chemistry then you can directly take chem35.</p>
<p>I took AP Chem two years ago, so I remember almost nothing. So I would like to take chem10 as a refresher course. What textbook is used? Please tell me!</p>
<p>Why don't you just chill out. Don't be so annoying to straight up reject the advice of EVERY brown student who has posted so far.</p>
<p>Besides, there is a significant population who drop one of the orgo's and repeat it. Knowing that 35 is spring and 36 is fall, and 33 is fall, taking chem 10 can put you dreadfully behind if at any point you repeat a chemistry course. If you want to go to med school right out of brown, you should definitely be taking chem 33.</p>
<p>But what do I know? I'm just a brown student who has been here a few years, going through the process myself and watching many of my friends do the same.....You know I have read a lot of your posts, and with the statements you make, questions you ask, etc., you don't really carry yourself or have the attitude of a brown student.</p>
<p>gamer007 -- if you're worried about what med schools will look for, take Chem 33. Almost no pre-meds take Chem 10. Really.</p>
<p>GHBrown hit it on the head. We're all in school, if we give you advice it's because we know about the situation. Brown doesnt offer 1 year of general chemistry, period. Chem 10 is for people who have had almost no exposure to chemistry, and even taking AP 2 years earlier, you will be prepared for chem 33.</p>
<p>Here is what you need to know before 33-- what is an atom, what is it made of. How to read the periodic table. PV=nrt (not really, but helps to know it first). Basic acid base (H+/OH-), etc etc.</p>
<p>Stop worrying about it and just do what 98% of students do. If Chem 33 is something you're not perpared for, you'll know during shopping period and change things up then, and by god, you do not need to start reading the textbook before the class starts. I never read the 33 textbook even being in the harder section, it doesnt require that much work! It's not an easy forget about it A in the harder sections, but it's not something you need so much advanced prep!</p>
<p>Go enjoy your summer!</p>
<p>the textbook used in CH10 is "basic concepts of chemistry", Leo J. Malone, 6th or 7th edition. I agree with the other Brown posters, though. I took this class only because I had literally never taken a real chemistry class before. Don't worry so much about med schools; a lot of Brown students are pre-med, and there were only like 35 people in the class. Testing out of CH10 (which you should be able to do if you know any chemistry at all) is the equivalent of taking it. A lot of people are in the same situation, and the pre-med dean takes care of them. They will make sure that all of the med schools you apply to know that you took the required courses at Brown. That being said, if you don't have any past chem experience either, CH10 is a nice, easy, relaxing intro course. Don't waste your time with it if you don't need to, though. There are so many amazing courses offered at Brown and so little time to appreciate them that it is best not to waste valuable course time.</p>