WHAT THE HECK! ACT takers don't have to take subject tests???

<p>My friend told me that if you take the ACT that it takes the place of the SAT I, AND SAT II subject tests! He said that he got this information from Brown's website, which reads:</p>

<p>"SAT Reasoning Test and SAT Subject Tests; ACT
Brown requires every applicant for admission to Brown in 2009-2010 to submit results of either the SAT Reasoning Test and any two SAT Subject Tests (except for the SAT Writing Test), or the ACT taken with the Writing Test option. (Note: prior to March, 2005, the SAT Reasoning Test was known as the SAT I and the SAT Subject Tests were known as the SAT II.)"
Brown</a> Admission: About the Application</p>

<p>Thats not fair. I thought that everybody had to take Subject Tests.</p>

<p>WHAT THE EEEFFFFFFF</p>

<p>It depends on the schools requirements. Some schools specifically require the SAT or ACT with Writing WITH subject tests as well.</p>

<p>Well, to make this easier…let’s just assume that we are talking about Ivy League, or Ivy quality schools.</p>

<p>it depends on each school. all their policies are not the same on this matter.</p>

<p>yep depends on the school. that surprised me too, but doesn’t rly matter, have all my subject tests anyway</p>

<p>if you submit subject tests with your ACT scores at a school like Brown where they’re not required, will they consider them?</p>

<p>Of course they will consider them. They will consider everything you send in. If they are good, it’ll help you out. If your subject scores are bad, they will hurt you. Of course, if that particular school lets you use Score Choice you don’t need to send them a bad SAT Subject Test score.</p>

<p>Just another reason why</p>

<p>ACT > SAT</p>

<p>Ya even stanford doesn’t require subject tests with the ACT. Same goes for Yale and UPenn.</p>

<p>I believe the reason for this is that the ACT is in four sections: English, Math, Reading Comp, and Science. Then there is also the optional (though recommended) writing section. It is longer than the SAT, and as you can see, it includes subject tests of a sort. So, there is the equivalent of the English SAT II and a Science SAT II, which many people take as their subject tests.</p>

<p>SAT I + SAT IIs > ACT.</p>

<p>^^^ that’s what we’re hoping here too…that even tho they say ACT = SAT I + SAT IIs, the colleges give preferences to the SATs. </p>

<p>keep in mind all your posters: the ACT is a Mid-western test while the SATs are more coastal. Then test takers began to prefer taking the ACT 'cuz you could choose the highest score. Now that score choice is available, I’m not sure which test the east coast schools like.</p>

<p>Stanford, mentioned above, actually does not require any SAT II tests for admission. It “recommends” two regardless of whether you submit the SAT or ACT.</p>

<p>As to colleges that normally require SAT IIs, go to the following site and its “required” column. If the number in the required column has an * next to it that means the college accepts the ACT in lieu of both the SAT and SAT IIs; no * means the college requires IIs even if you submit ACT. There is a correction/update that has not been made yet. Rice this year is joining those colleges that accept the ACT in lieu of both the SAT and SAT IIs so it should also have an * next to its number:</p>

<p>[Compass:</a> Admissions Requirements](<a href=“SAT Subject Test Requirements and Recommendations”>SAT Subject Test Requirements and Recommendations)</p>

<p>This policy makes no sense to me. I haven’t taken the ACT, but going by the PLAN the science section is basically interpreting graphs and stuff. Is that what the ACT is like? If so, then why would it subsitute the SAT+SAT II?</p>

<p>Because college is crazy!
I don’t get it either :/</p>

<p>Typically, do you do Writing on ACT?</p>

<p>might as well because usually at least one college requires it…</p>

<p>I’m sure pretty much everyone who takes the ACT does it with writing. I go to a really small school (100 per class) where hardly anyone ever goes off to a really prestigious college. I didn’t even know there was a such thing as SAT II’s…I only took the ACT because it was required. Sigh, I hope I get into a freaking college T_T</p>

<p>I wonder the same as post #12…when colleges say that either will work, do they really mean it, or would they rather have SAT + SAT IIs instead of ACT w/writing? During a Duke info session, an admissions officer said that they really do mean it, and he went on to say “why pay for 2 tests when you can take just one?” I have a friend who is a freshman at Rice. She only submitted her ACT w/writing score. Who knows???</p>

<p>It doesn’t matter. I’m sending all of my test scores to the college I want to go to. Submitting more than 1 or 2 can show improvements and balanced academics.</p>