<p>Was wondering what the policy was before/during Academy. And im not talking about a casual/habitual use, more like you use it for a 4week-2month cycle like once a year.</p>
<p>Are you referring to Anabolic Steroids or Corticosteroids? Using for muscle mass or arthritic/immnuosuppresive therapy? Wow if it is for a medical condition DoDMERB and the USAFA/SG will look at it and decide if it DQ's you. If it is Anabolic and used for muscle mass it ain't worth it.</p>
<p>yay sorry I meant muscle. </p>
<p>The concept is that I am a really light kid because I wrestle. (135 class) And I really want to hit around 160 before I go to academy...</p>
<p>Sorry to giggle, my son (appt to WP, waiting to hear from other two), wrestles 112 but weighs 109. And you think YOU'RE light! :)</p>
<p>Are you seriously asking if steroids are ok? I can smell the DoDMERB DQ a mile away if they discover that. Just work hard, you'll become lighter in BCT if you gain it anyways.</p>
<p>Pardon my ignorance, but isn't using steroids for muscle mass illegal? I thought you had to have a doctor's note for that stuff?</p>
<p>Reply to Hornet: Thank you, I was wondering if it was ok or not.</p>
<p>Reply to Zach: Some insane steroids are illegal but you can go to pretty much any family doctor or nutricionist and they will do it for you.</p>
<p>No problem as long as your liver tumor doesn't spontaneously bleed or rupture during Basic. Plus the premature hair loss, paranoia, and hypogonadism should serve you well during your 4-dig year.</p>
<p>Any family practice doc who would prescribe these is an idiot and should be reported to the State Medical Board.</p>
<p>Well if you use like the ones the Doc gives you for only about 2 months to gain the weight there are no long terms effects that I have ever seen in anyone. Its those people that abuse it and get addicted to it that get destroyed physically and emotionally.</p>
<p>Anyways, now that I know its a no-no, I guess its out of question.</p>
<p>I guess you don't work at a liver transplant center.</p>
<p>Quite possibly the worst idea I've ever heard. How tall are you? With the season over you should have more than enough time to lift and put on some pounds naturally. Do you have any experience with weight training? I strongly recommend getting a solid workout plan, taking weight supplements if necessary (protein of course, and creatine if you want quicker gains), and sticking to it. Obviously taking any form of steroids and working out 1-2 times a week would be the easy way out, but do your body a favor and gain the weight gradually. And I haven't even gotten into side-effects...</p>
<p>Have you considered that 25 pounds in this short a time is nothing short of ridiculous? I realize that you're cutting weight for wrestling and you should reach an equilibrium weight after the season. But if anything, putting on the extra weight will only slow you down considerably during runs, and your body will fatigue much easier during any kind of anaerobic exercise lasting more than 5-10 seconds (front leaning rest rings a bell). </p>
<p>Don't kid yourself. Work hard and stay in shape, and you'll be fine for basic. As hornet said, a lot of excess weight will be lost anyway, so make sure you're not far from your natural body weight and you won't have to worry about any rapid losses. </p>
<p>Moral: steroids = bad</p>
<p>I already have 6.3% body fat what more can I lose? XD And I still have regionals and states for wrestling (If I win in regionals) and I dont need to worry about my body just my admission and as soon as I found out DODMBERB said no from Hornet it was no for me too anyways.</p>
<p>Im 5'10 btw. (JUST WANT TO GROW 2 MORE INCHES =P)</p>
<p>Weight is not necessarily a good thing, as bostonguy has stated. The lighter you are, the more pushups and pullups you can do, and the faster you run. If you're worried about preparing for basic, don't bulk up...just run longer and do more pushups. Bulking up won't do much for you at all...it's all endurance stuff here.</p>
<p>I lost around 7 pounds for wrestling and gained it all back within a week or two of the season ending. I feel much better as well! Just hit the weights, man.</p>
<p>"Well if you use like the ones the Doc gives you for only about 2 months to gain the weight there are no long terms effects that I have ever seen in anyone"</p>
<p>Although understanding of your desire to gain weight, I think that our experience and age don't really allow us to see "long term effects." From what I have read I would guess it isn't worth it. Why not think about changing your diet? I have been steadily gaining weight by increasing the number of meals I eat, as well by taking protein and liver supplements (obviously you should be working out at the same time). Good luck</p>
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<p>I guess you don't work at a liver transplant center.
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<p>Listen to the man; he's been practicing medicene longer than you've been alive.</p>
<p>Again wow! As Gasdoc said, any Physician who would prescribe steriods for the purpose you have described should be reported to the state medical board, and stripped of their license to practice medicine....if the idea of a liver tumor is too distant an image for you, consider the rage associated with the use of these products, or perhaps the shrinkage that can occur to certain parts of the male anatomy (and I ain't talkin about your brain)...it just isn't worth it!</p>
<p>I appreciate after Hornet let you know it would be an automatic DoDMERB DQ, you changed your position. I am just concerned you would even consider such a short cut at all.</p>
<p>I find this thread disturbing in soooo man ways.</p>
<p>First, in the wake of the Clemmons senate hearings, I would think anyone with current events knowledge would understand that steroids are not good.</p>
<p>Second, that someone is concerned about gaining weight would place foreign matter in their body, instead of seeing a nutritionist.</p>
<p>Third, that someone actually asked the question...no offense to the OP, but what were you thinking? If you view the threads just on DQ's for medical reasons, common sense would tell you that you would be flagged...I m pretty sure that anyone who took steroids, even for medical reasons would fail the urine analysis test, and thus, you would now have to go through a review board and risk losing an appt. For what ? A few pounds.</p>
<p>I also agree with ds52262, I am a little concerned that not only did the thought cross your mind, but you actually looked for validation that it might be okay.</p>
<p>I was doing a little internet surfing this week into why tonic water is not recommended for aviators. I came across this Naval Flight Surgeon guidance for dietary suppliments. I haven't even read it but it probably contains some excellent advice as to both the 'whys' and the 'why nots'.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity...why tonic water?</p>
<p>To add to this conversation...I know that Bullet and every aviator is very particular about what they put in their body. Even as AD, they are given random drug tests. Bullet will only take aspirin and pepto. He won't even think of putting nyquil in his body or taking Afrin without going DNIF. He would also have a 103 fever before thinking of going DNIF :D.</p>
<p>So the thought of taking steroids is comical to me.</p>
<p>I also know flyers who won't eat anything with poppyseeds...yep...no lemon poppyseed muffins, poppyseed bread, etc. This is why I asked about tonic water...does it have the same effect?</p>