What to do about a big difference in CR versus Math SAT? ...

<p>Does your child like reading and writing, in spite of the disability? If not…you’ll want a school with a few core/general ed requirements as possible. Which would be another possible reason to stay away from the Catholic schools…most of which have core humanities & religion requirements.</p>

<p>Many of the engineering schools take “lopsided” kids. Agree with RIT and WPI as suggestions.</p>

<p>ClarkAlum, No, I’m not talking about the high school refusing to provide double-time for the SAT. I’m saying that he has extended time accommodations in school but they are time and a half. The CB does not request that coded kids send in the psychologist’s report (and it is of little use when the student has an IEP or 504). When they give accommodations, they generally give the same time accommodations the student receives in school and, in this case, it would be time and a half, not double-time. </p>

<p>Years ago, I fought the battle with CB over an accommodation that one of my kids needed that was not on the 504. They refused and made the kid take the test without the requested accommodation. They changed their minds only after the kid got violently sick during the test which disturbed everyone else. That won’t happen this time. </p>

<p>And, by the way, my son’s IQ is fine. His CR does not correlate to his IQ. </p>

<p>2boysima, That was sort of my thinking. The ones I looked at seemed to have a lot of requirements and son has never had a religion or philosophy course in his life. He does fine in English/Social Studies but those courses take him longer than math/science. I think the techy schools are a better fit for him (especially if they have music) but I don’t know if I should aim where his math would put him or look for a place with lower SATs. I will see about visiting WPI.</p>

<p>Check out University of Hartford. They have a fine engineering program. Admissions to UHartford are not as competitive as some of the other schools on your list.</p>

<p>Wow, thumper, you’re good! I just looked it up in Naviance and it looks like it could be a safety (his gpa is .5 over the average admitted from our school and his combined SAT is in range). They have engineering, music, an ld program, are in a city and have some diversity.</p>

<p>My husband is an engineer who graduated from U of Hartford! </p>

<p>Just an FYI…it’s not smack in the middle of Hartford. It’s on the Hartford/West Hartford/Bloomfield line.</p>

<p>My daughter (hs senior now) scored in a similar fashion … She has almost a 4.0 unweighted average. Weighted it is even higher. She is 14 in her class - missing top 5% by one student!!</p>

<p>Her math score was very good, her CR 120 below (decent score, but not in comparison to math) - I think one thing that helped even out her score on applications is that her writing score was 140 points above her CR. She has no issue writing or even reading if something is interesting (such as her science books, etc) - but she becomes bored and easily distracted reading english and history books and therefore reads a little slower and it showed up in her SAT.</p>

<p>How does your son’s writing score compare to his reading? I know most colleges don’t formally count it, but I believe they do take it into consideration in cases such as this.</p>

<p>Up to this point she has been accepted at every college she applied as a biochemistry major. She received very good merit awards at all but one private. So, it is not necessarily difficult to get into colleges with split scores. We are still waiting on 3 schools - Union, JMU and Binghamton.
She has been accepted to Siena, Stonehill, Loyola Maryland, U of Scranton, High Point University, and 3 SUNYs (2 of which are highly competitive with acceptance rates of 35%).</p>

<p>I graduated from Union - it is a great environment for a student that may need more individual attention. The engineering programs are stellar and well-respected. Be aware that as a LAC, Union has core education requirements in foreign language, history, english and more. Be forewarned that they have a required freshman course that is going to be very difficult for your son. I believe it has just become broader based than when I was there 20 years ago - with various faculty teaching it each year and not just the english department. In 3 months we read the Odyssey, the Illiad, and 3 other very long, very complicated novels.</p>

<p>As another note Union is a trimester college - so students take 1 or 2 less courses each term than a traditional semester school. Upside - less time in classes and fewer to concentrate on. Downside - reading and coursework that would normally take a semester is condensed into 3 months.</p>

<p>My daughter’s college is on quarters…similar to trimesters. Three terms during the academic year. She says it is a significant downside for some of her courses…a term is only 10 weeks long (plus a week of exams…and then a break…it’s NOT three months of classes!!). Missing even one class can really put you significantly behind the eight ball. She also says this was the MOST significant adjustment she had to make when she started college…terms that went by so quickly.</p>

<p>His writing score is about half-way between the math and CR. It’s fine. If his CR was there, I wouldn’t worry as much.</p>

<p>blmom14, Thanks. I’ve been wondering how Union would be for him. I will look at the core and freshman course now. The weird thing is his favorite book ever was The Odyssey. He loved the action. Now, give him The Scarlet Letter (as I tried to do) and forget it. </p>

<p>I think college will be an organizational challenge to him. It’s hard to impress on them how much more organized you need to be for college.</p>

<p>.bumping in case anyone else has further insight.</p>

<p>“Just an FYI…it’s not smack in the middle of Hartford. It’s on the Hartford/West Hartford/Bloomfield line”</p>

<p>I grew up bike-riding distance from the University of Hartford. It still doesn’t have much of an academic reputation though I can’t speak for the engineering program. The music program (the Hartt School of Music) was always regarded as excellent. The campus is really ugly and nondescript.</p>

<p>ClarkAlum, It sounds like it would be a decent safety. I have heard of the music program, although not the engineering program. Truth be told, I can see him changing majors. He’s quite a talented musician. At this point, he wants a music minor because a double major seems unrealistic and he believes engineering is a more feasible career.</p>

<p>You might look into Alfred University in western NY, if your son can learn to love “too rural”. The town has one traffic light, but the campus is beautiful.I think the student population is about 8-10% nonwhite. It’s a nice school with a well-regarded engineering program, a bit cheaper than a lot of other private colleges. My daughter’s scores were lopsided the other way (480 math, 740 CR, writing 710 but wasn’t yet counted by colleges), mostly an A student gradewise (except math, where she went from okay to barely hanging on), and Alfred offered her a merit scholarship! Not for engineering, you’ll be relieved to hear. She didn’t go there, is at the still-more-economical state U, but I hope this is helpful.</p>

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<p>The engineering program is well regarded in this area of CT.</p>

<p>How to explain my brother PSAT score.
PSAT score Math 72, CR 49, W 49
SAT II Math 770
Where should he go to look for help?</p>

<p>2collegewego - don’t give someone who doesn’t like to read any book by Hawthorne! I majored in American Studies and found him intolerable. Maybe he would like Hemingway.</p>

<p>As far as the long CR passages, these are the hardest part of the reading portion of the SAT. The question format is designed to be tricky, with answers that can all seem wrong. It is very important to go over why the right answer is correct, and the wrong one that the student picked is wrong. I think that the student needs to develop a certain mindset as to what the test is trying to do, and follow that. It does not come naturally to some students who are good students. Remember it is Critical (emphasis) reading. Comparing one essay to another. For this type of thing reading editorials in NYT or WSJ may be helpful, and looking up any vocabulary that is new. Try comparing a NYT to a WSJ on the same subject. They will likely be at odds with each other. A lot of the CR is like this. If you have not looked at the stuff in N years since your own time in HS, maybe you should. Then talk to son and try to understand what throws him for a loop. A tutor might help if you can get a handle on what is lacking.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>My D’s CR is her lowest. She has worked on her math (her easy subject) to improve it even further to compensate for CR. She has consistantly tested much lower in reading compare to her other scores all during elementary thru HS with highest consistantly being writing. We knew that there is no way she could improve that. As predicted, her ACT CR (lowest) was 7 point below English (highest), but she improved her math to the point that it compensated for low CR. Strategy worked perfectly, she got ACT=33 on first try, it was enough for college program of her choice.</p>

<p>Well, it depends on HOW good his math score is, and how good his grades are, of course.</p>

<p>A lot of colleges would probably be totally willing to overlook low CR scores for an engineering major, provided said engineering major was quite strong in other areas.</p>

<p>If GPA and M SAT are well above average for scools such as Syracuse, etc. I do not think they would be reaches. If it is only slightly above, then of course there would be issues. That is why perhaps some studying to get the math score up may help as well, even though that’s his strength. </p>

<p>I was a split-scorer - at first. 800 CR score, 770 writing score, 560 M. Took the test again after some self study and manged to get in the low 600s for M. Then took the test AGAIN after a tutor and got into the low 700s. Whew. </p>

<p>I think with the tutor he’s going to show some definite improvement. I have some math processing issues that were never diagnosed; I make a lot of simple addition/subtraction/multiplication mistakes due to flipping numbers in my head. 6s become 9s, 213 because 321 etc. Learning tips and tricks=v. helpful in overcoming these issues, as the tips often involved things like plugging in numbers, recognizing patterns, blahblah. I am sure there are some similar tricks for reading to help overcome feelings of being pressed for time, feelings of boredom, whatever.</p>