What to do about cheating?

Pre-College Issues High School Life
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<p>I'm not sure if this is the right section for this, but I'm going to start at the beginning. </p>

<p>So, I am a senior in high school, and all four years there has been a student who has cheated. And I mean a lot. He cheated his way to top in the class and has a 100 in nearly every class. The teachers are simply blind to it. I have to give some examples.</p>

<p>Last year in English my teacher administered a mock AP test on a Saturday morning. A few students were taking the SAT though, so they were allowed to take it home. He was one of them, and sure enough the next Monday my teacher goes, "___ is a genius! He got all of the multiple choice right!" She didn't believe any of us when we told her that since he took it home he found all of the answers online. She said that was impossible, but as I'm sure many of you other AP students are aware, nearly every AP problem is online.</p>

<p>Which brings me to my junior year AP history class. The tests consisted of many AP multiple choice and an essay or two. Every time we took a test, this student would sit with his phone under the desk, and he'd get a 100 on every test. Finally, when it came to the midterm, the entire class had had enough. We all went and told the teacher, who said he'd look into it, but the cheating continued for the rest of the year.</p>

<p>Those are just two examples, but I think that sums it up. That brings us to the present. I've always taken for granted, and perhaps I've been naive, but I've always assumed that he never cheated in calc because I am positive that our teacher would never accept it the way the others do. Plus how would you even cheat in calc (besides the few problems we used to get that were from AP exams)? This year our class is a dual enrollment course. Today I found out that he cheated on the test we had last week. I have no idea how he did so, but I heard from students that sit near him that he was cheating.</p>

<p>For years my friends and I have told ourselves that karma will get him when he either gets caught or fails in college. However, is this the time I should once again and try to alert a teacher? I am mostly concerned because he is getting both high school and college credits for this course.</p>

<p>I have been debating whether to go with my friend who also heard this and tell the teacher after class tomorrow or to type an anonymous letter to leave in the teacher's mailbox?</p>

<p>I feel like we don't have enough evidence, but possibly if it was in person we would be able to mention how we told other teachers to no avail.</p>

<p>Are there any other points I should mention or should I not even tell at all?</p>

<p>Thank you, sorry this is so long.</p>

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<p>Karma may take its sweet time. Eventually, he will either get caught, or be unable to find the answers, but right now, I’d let your teacher know that you are concerned about cheating and come up with a class policy - cell phones on the desk, for example - that addresses the issue without naming names. It’s worth a try.</p>

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<p>There was a huge cheating scandal in my high school IB calc classes. There were two classes, one right after the other, and they had the same tests. The teacher got suspicious of cheating, though, and one time changed the order of the problems on the test. There was still a group of people that put down the answers from the previous period’s test, even though the resulting answers made no sense. They figured out who was giving the answers, and it also turns out he was selling answers to the IB Physics tests. The university he was planning to go to ended up revoking his full scholarship over it. Karma bit him bad.</p>

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<p>I agree with Sakacar. Things will quickly go downhill if you rat him out by name.</p>

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<p>No snitchin’. You don’t tell ‘em nothin’, they don’t know nothin’.</p>

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<p>Lol Yakisoba.
Well I have a similar experience. There was this boy who always cheated on tests and stuff. I remember my class and I were taking this long social studies assessment and he was literally over my shoulder saying. “Mmmmmh, yeah ok.” And I was just looking at him. My friend was literally trying to take my paper away to copy my answers as well, but only succeeded in tearing it apart. The guy claimed he had gotten bad grades, despite him being in almost all the honors courses.
Also, yesterday, a boy in my class said, “I have to sit next to someone I can cheat off of”. Yes, he legitimately said that out loud. This was the case because we were about to take a state administered assessment for English. My class is annoying… Or at least 90% of the class is -_-</p>

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How does this count as evidence? You don’t have any evidence, regardless of past incidents. I don’t see your claim going anywhere because you don’t even know whether or not said person cheated.</p>

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<p>Snitches get stitches.</p>

<p>Lol but seriously, unless you obtain some PHYSICAL evidence of him cheating, its your word against his.</p>

<p>The way I see it, you have two options:

  1. Continue on with your life as you would normally do, and let life work itself out (karma will get him eventually).
  2. Break into your school tonight and set up some cameras. After a few weeks, you will have obtained enough evidence to make a case to your teachers.</p>

<p>I would go with option 1.</p>

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<p>If it really bothers you, you should tell the teacher again and you should tell your teacher’s supervisor/boss. The burden will then be on the supervisor to find the evidence, not you.</p>

<p>You should definitely say something if this kid is around often. Things will not be good if he gets caught and you are suspected as well just because the two of you happen to be around each other often. </p>

<p>Also, if you are really pinin over it, you have to tell someone for your own personal health. You do not even have to say the cheaters name, just that you have reason to believe that the test you took is invalid. Revelation of the name may be appropriate later, depending on how big a deal the supervisor thinks it is and how much he/she is willing to pursue the issue. </p>

<p>I do not consider telling someone about a cheater “snitching” unless you are trying to ruin the kids reputation just to up your own class rank, or get an advantage over him somehow. But if you are really bothered by it, it’s the only way you’ll feel better.</p>

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<p>why does it bother you so much?
I mean whatever he does, it is he business. he will eventually pay the price for it once he go to college or on his SATs.</p>

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<p>^some people just get worked up over this kind of stuff because they take great pride in maintains their integrities. I suppose it is a bit irksome that this kid will also probably end up being valedictorian. </p>

<p>There is no reason to worry about these things, but some can’t help it.</p>

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<p>^*maintaining</p>

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<p>They will fail or be sent to the dean for expulsion in college. Since many classes in college have a curve, a cheater is going to hurt the curve.</p>

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<p>Personally, I would say something to the cheater…</p>

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<p>As long as it doesn’t bother me, I don’t care. Can’t be hypocritical.</p>

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<p>I wouldn’t say anything to someone who is cheating so they can barely pass the class, but someone who is cheating to be the “best”… I wouldn’t let that slide.</p>

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<p>I agree. It sucks that he’s getting away with all this cheating, and he’s not only cheating himself, but the merits of others, too…but really, it’s not your role to make sure that he gets caught and faces consequences. I think the only reason you want to report him is because he’s getting extremely high grades that you may not always get, and he’s also undeserving of them. I understand that it’s frustrating, but just perform the best that you possibly can and know that all of his academic success in high school was a result of cheating. Be satisfied and proud that you actually worked hard to learn material and actually expand your knowledge.</p>

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<p>If you find a SHREAD of evidence…let the housemaster/counselor know. Seems like this is a repeating thing, with many people noticing…if that’s the case, and many people repeat the same thing, then over time a case can be made. But no evidence right now, so not much can be done…People really do rig cameras to catch people though. </p>

<p>Sidestory, unrelated, but for entertainment:</p>

<p>Some get-something-for-nothing cheater and donkey-hat made an OPEN facebook group to share answers for a takehome test. We all knew what would happen before it did…and after 2.5 years of putting up with him stealing our answers when he thought we weren’t looking, he slipped and now he’s a strike (two strike system before letter in file, suspension, etc) down. He can’t won’t screw around anymore. Point is, sooner or later they WILL slip. And that’s their self-made downfall. </p>

<p>Best of luck with this situation OP!</p>

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<p>Honestly, just talk to your teacher in private. Two years ago, I was in a European history class that was taught by a teacher who was fresh out of college. Essentially, he was naive to this whole ‘teaching’ business, and wanted to believe that everyone would work honestly. Quixotic, but so many of my classmates took advantage of his ignorance. My section had about 25 kids, and only me and one other girl actually every did the readings and took notes for his class. It was frustrating that I could work so hard and get the same grade as the kid who did nothing. I eventually told the teacher about the cheating. Some kids did get caught, and the situation became a bit better. It goes to show you that talking does help. =)</p>

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<p>It sounds like the teachers not only ignore it, they don’t care. I would literally email every admin at my school. I’m not going to let some scum get over on my entire class. If he doesn’t get into trouble after the first round of emails, I’d email the superintendent.</p>

<p>Oh and I would email anonymously. And I wouldn’t tell any of your friends.</p>

<p>If the conduct still continues, I’d email where he’s applying to schools. No joke. Screw that kid. People saying his time will come…yea, probably not. At this pace he’s going to parlay his way into a highly selective school, cheat his way through there and then get a high paying job that he conned his way to.</p>