<p>Using a mix of factors including student and professor surveys, recruiter surveys, average salaries etc. seems to be significantly against the consensus on CC and many other places that Wharton and Harvard are ridiculously superior. I am especially surprised by the recruiters survey numbers, which include many public universities over top private schools. Can anyone spot where this ranking is getting such outlandishly different results then general consensus? I realized after a second look Harvard was not ranked due to not having a specialized B-School for undergrads but the rankings are still perplexing.</p>
<p>Here is a quote from their methodology section:</p>
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<p>In addition to surveying students, Bloomberg Businessweek polled 775 corporate recruiters for companies that hire thousands of business majors each year. We asked them to tell us which programs turn out the best graduates, and which schools have the most innovative curricula and most effective career services. In the end, 246 recruiters responded, a response rate of about 32 percent.</p>
<h2>The results of the 2011 recruiter survey are then combined with the results of two previous recruiter surveys, from 2010 and 2009, to calculate a recruiter survey score for each school. The 2011 survey supplies 50 percent of the score; the two previous surveys supply 25 percent each</h2>
<p>With this methodology the recruiting survey returned these results:</p>
<p>Any theories why? It’s a good school and all, but everyone in the finance, IB, etc. and most major corps seems to think Wharton rules undergrad Business, and similar top 25’s still trump most state schools. Only thing I can think is that that many of the recruiters surveyed recruited for less competitive jobs and this diluted the pool.</p>
<p>Either way it probably wont change my decision much since the only large public school I am interested in is U of Minnesota (family connections is Twin Cities) I really don’t want to attend a school with 25-40k undergrads otherwise. Although Notre Dame’s looks more appealing with a #1 ranking in the Student and Prof. surveys.</p>
<p>It doesnt mean that a graduate out of penn state will make more than one of an Ivy and it doesnt mean that they will land a better job. it does mean how ever that recruiters find students to be more well rounded in many cases at state schools as opposed to ivy league schools. also state schools are much larger than ivys so companies are able to recruit way more graduates. more bang for their recruiting buck. in that sense it is also a numbers game. so it doesnt mean go to penn state over Wharton, but it does say a good amount about the quality of graduates at state schools such as penn state and others.</p>
<p>That is kind of what I assumed. I just thought it odd that this list (both the Recruiters survey and Regular top 20 ranking) differed so far from the “general consensus” and from some other rankings of both overall institution and of MBA programs etc.</p>
<p>It really makes sense though if you think about the numbers game. It all depends on the type of questions they asked the students/recruiters/profs etc. and also on the type of person who takes the time to respond.</p>
<p>I also like that it gives me a good view of the best group of schools at which I can be relatively confident of my admission. It will help me form the solid match portion of my list. (Regional schools as my safeties and Ivies as my reaches, these fall in the middle)</p>