<p>haha got it… I understand. The others at Ucla may have not had the same opportunities as someone at your school… :)</p>
<p>to see how you measure up at your high school.</p>
<p>You can find just about all the information you need here at the[UC Stat Finder](<a href=“http://statfinder.ucop.edu/reports/schoolreports/search_b.aspx”>http://statfinder.ucop.edu/reports/schoolreports/search_b.aspx</a>), as UC is the most transparent university in the world.</p>
<p>The link I provided asks a high school or community college to be inputted. Be sure to state the name of the school correctly. “Gunn” will show “Henry M Gunn…High School,” and just enter the highlighted full name.</p>
<p>Readysetpause is correct: UCLA and Cal admit to how a student best performs at his or her high school. And the admitted students’ “stats” can vary wildly from one high school to another. Because both schools are most keen on meeting a “diversity index,” the mean/median SAT scores for each school are not really very high, for UCLA it’s 1280 and Cal, 1316 in the 2008 admits (1600 max score as opposed to 2100). The nature of updating the index is apparently dependent on infomation taht will have at best a two-year lag because of inputs like “frosh-year performance.” The difference in grades and scores between the two is probably because UCLA has a larger burden to admit from underperforming schools in its area, as compared to Cal, which has less “bad” schools in its area.</p>
<p>Let’s do a couple of case studies of high schools. By the way, you can have reports printed out on your spreadsheet program, which will help you to see what the top feeder schools to each of the UC campuses are. For instance, in 08, Cal admitted 64!!! students from Mission San Jose High School in Fremont, and UCLA admitted 43 from Diamond Bar High School. Click on the “Academic Characteristics” tab and you’ll find the gpas and SATs for each of the UC school’s admits from these high-school campuses. The top feeder schools to UCLA and Cal would have mean gpas of >> 4.0 and most likely SATs > 1400 and would most likely be in wealthier areas at schools that have loads of AP and students that can hire SAT tutors or take a great prep program to ensure a high score.</p>
<p>Let’s look at Arcadia High School…</p>
<p>Wealthy area. Lots of highly motivated Asian students.</p>
<p>In 2008, 913 graduates. </p>
<p>Matriculants to UCLA: 30; Cal: 21; to all UC: 303, or approx 33% of of the graduating class, including 89 to Riverside!!!</p>
<p>Stats of graduating class: UCLA: 4.10/1420; Cal: 4.11/1423. For UC as a whole: 3.68/1273.</p>
<p>I was going to look at so-and-so high school but I decided against it. You can look at the stats of the students UCLA, Cal and the rest of the Ucs admit from these schools and see that the grades and scores of these students would be significantly lower. The “UC Persistence” would certainly be lower. </p>
<p>But let’s not condemn them for trying finish their educations at UCLA and Cal, but rather hope they do well. And with good academic support, these kids will succeed at even UCLA and Cal, and the payoff of their being high-powered professionals will make both schools look good. Educating students isn’t all about admitting the best and brightest according to the two criteria, but making sure that all students admitted with moderate to outstanding grades/scores do do well.</p>
<p>A couple of notes:</p>
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<li><p>UC caps gpa, so the means would probably be a good .15 - .20 lower than fully fully weighted gpa for each of the universities.</p></li>
<li><p>It seems that the SAT means of admits from top feeder schools to UCLA and Cal have gone up over the last five years, but that mean SATs of UCLA and Cal haven’t gone up much at all. This probably means taht UCLA, especially, has admitted more from underperforming schools (with lower SATs) to counter the trends upward from, say, wealthier schools. I’m not sure if the newly updated 2009 admits, would show scores under the three sections rather than two.</p></li>
<li><p>UCLA and Cal have reduced in-state enrollment by accepting more oos and internationals. I don’t know waht this effect will show in each of the CA high-school’s enrollments. Will feeder high-school admits to both be lowered with underperforming schools remaining static, or vice-versa? </p></li>
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<p>According to my numbers, UCLA admitted 76% of CA students and 24% of Non-CA origins. Cal admitted 73% CA and 27% Non-CA. The yield will be lower, significantly, for each wrt Non-CA residents, so the final frosh class won’t be near these %’s. Because both schools’ reps internationally precede that of that among the other 49 states, the yield for internationals will be higher than oos students.</p>
<p>The UC Stat Finder also confirms that each of the UC campuses in clude all students, including athletes, special admits, in its calculations of gpa and SATs for certain high schools. And if certain high schools produced many athletes, then the grades/scores of the admits to, say, UCLA would be perpetually low for a certain hs. </p>
<p>Corona del Mar HS sends a lot of volleyball and water polo players to UCLA. This is reflected in the much lower stats in some years over all other years. </p>
<p>Some schools leave out these special admits in their gpa/SAT means/medians calculations, but obviously UC doesn’t.</p>
<p>sat: 2270
gpa: 4.4 w, 3.9 uw
ec: speech and debate, model un, some leadership roles</p>
<p>that’s about it. my life was speech and debate, so i didn’t do much else. damn it’s been a while since i’ve had to recall that information. maybe i was involved in something else, i can’t remember anymore :P</p>
<p>i am in debate too</p>
<p>dang drax… that was a really detailed post o.o i didtn even realize my class had those kind of stats… lol no wonder all my friends werent getting into the schools they wanted </p>
<p>yay speech/debate kids! lol the good old hs days D:</p>
<p>act 26
gpa 3.2 w
sat 2 math: 520, us hist: 550
abercrombie model</p>