<p>I mean, I'm not in any way bad mouthing Princeton. We knew it was going to be a long shot anyway when S applied EA. Well, he got deferred along with over 2000 applicants!! 700+ accepted and only 49 rejected! WHAT? </p>
<p>These 2000+ students will be competing with approximately 20,000+ more candidates, so my question is: What's the point of applying SCEA? Was this pool of applicants so unique and good they couldn't get rid of more? or if they were so unique and good how come they didn't accept more?</p>
<p>Oh well, I'm glad S is not affected and moving on to his other choices. I'm sure in the end he'll end up where he belongs and be happy</p>
<p>Those EA applicants got in a lot easier than those in the RD pool will. A 1/3 accept rate is very, very good for a school like Princeton, so yes, if your S was not accepted with those odds, making the RD cut is going to be that much more difficult.</p>
<p>However, he has some advantage in that he can look over what he sent there, and add to it. Have his counselor send a note, if he keeps up his grades, that can be noted. He has a second shot, and can improvise and improve, something RD candidates cannot. </p>
<p>But the point of SCEA was to get that 30% chance as opposed to the single digit one. Still, 70% aren’t going to make that cut.</p>
<p>@cptofthehouse
Thank you. Do you recommend sending other letters of recommendations? Like he can send and extra one from his coaches and another from his AP Chemistry teacher. So far all his grades are A’s and GC will send his mid year report at the end of January when they come available. If he sends letters is it better to have it sent directly from the teachers electronically or by mail? Thank you, and yes we know the next round is going to be more difficult.</p>
<p>Brown did the same thing. They deferred 71 percent of ED applicants. Honestly, though, I don’t doubt that most of those deferred are viable candidates that might look much better in the regular pool than in the early pool. Every college tour and info night we attended said the same thing… The ED/EA crop tends to be unusually high and hooked candidates. I know nothing about your son but my daughter was deferred at Brown and it’s what we expected. She’s a strong candidate but not a recruited athlete, first generation, legacy or anything that betters your odds in the ED round. But, applying early gets her the “high interest” check on her application (which is “very important” according to their common data set) and maybe she’ll be more attractive against the RD crowd.</p>
<p>Good luck to your son RD. Many kids do get accepted after deferral… not all but many. My D is looking at it as a rejection and pushing forward on the last of her RD applications. Whatever happens I’m sure both our kids will land someplace great!</p>
<p>Saona, over the break, it’s good to look carefully over every single thing your son sent to PRinceton and see what can be improved upon. Do not send anything repetitive unless it looks like it was underreported. The school will not want a rehash of the original app. What can be added? If you can afford it, a good college counselor, a private one might be a good investment to give you an appraissal and directed advice which can help with the other applications too. If you have an outstanding college counselor who is experienced and successful with selective school admissions at your son’s high school, s/he might be the one to direct; otherwise I would go private to one that is so experienced. </p>
<p>Even if your son does not get into Princeton RD, this is a good chance to shore up the process</p>
<p>Given how many more applications that these schools have yet to assess, it’s amazing to me that they even accepted that many early. You can see that they have to leave room for the vast majority of the tide to come, so, yes, if your son’s app was on the edge of accepance, who knows? It may be tagged for reconsideration for RD if the numbers were just getting too high for the Early round. As Turtletime says, there are the hooked candidates that tend to make up the Early group that pretty much HAVE to be accepted. </p>
<p>What are the chances of acceptance in past years for Princeton after deferral? THat can give you some idea. It’s difficult to get an accurate assessment on the chances as the Early group, as there are so many special groups in there, and schools are not going to give out that breakdown.</p>
<p>Thank you both. Yes, he’s looking at it as a rejection and working on the rest of his applications. Made some changes to the rest of schools, scratch off some and added some.
Quick look at his stats:
4.0 UW - 4.85 W
rank 10/851
SAT 2220 (CR 730 M 770 W 720)
SAT II - Math 2 790, Chem 760 , US Hist 740
AP’s HG 5, WH 5, Chem 5, Calc AB 5, EL&C 5, US Hist 5
Varsity swimmer 4 years, captain. Varsity WP player 3 years captain
Don’t like to mention this, but yes Hispanic and first generation college student</p>
<p>I offered to find him help to go over his applications and he just doesn’t want it:(
We’ll see what happens:) Good luck to your daughter turtletime!!</p>
<p>If you knocked out the hooked admits in that pile of 714 (the legacies, athletes, and developmentals, but not the URMs), I wonder what the true acceptance rate was, and if it differs that much from the regular acceptance rate? </p>
<p>I’m sure it’s somewhat improved, but I wonder if they’re really accepting anyone they wouldn’t have taken RD? Most schools claims there’s no advantage, and I’m starting to believe them. ED/EA seems to just helps you avoid the traffic jam that might result from too many kids like you applying - so in that regard it’s not a plus, but rather a negative avoidance move.</p>