<p>From what I heard, people who score 100 or even 110 have usually problems with geting their CR score above 600/650. Even many top schools which recommend the applicants to have at least 110 are fully satisfied with 600 or 650.
I have 690 on CR too and I wont take TOEFL at all, because most of the schools on my list answered, that it is sufficent proof of my english proficiency… Even Penn or Williams are satisfied with CR above 650.</p>
<p>What I wanted to say is that TOEFL is much easier than SAT if you know what to expect from it.</p>
<p>TOEFL 75 is good for many 2nd tier colleges (ranks lower than 50) include Ohio State. Also there are many schools can admit you conditionally with this score. In this case, you will have to complete a English class during the 1st year.</p>
<p>Again, TOEFL is a pass/fail test. Once you’re past the requirement, that’s it. TOEFL and SAT are not comparable, and SAT CR will always dominate as long as your TOEFL is past minimum requirements. Colleges won’t give a damn at all if you get 100 or 120, unless your SAT CR is also borderline. In most cases, if you get something like 650 in CR, colleges will just discard your TOEFL score report. Which means that, if you’re applying for Ivy league schools, you almost certainly don’t need to worry about your TOEFL. Get a good score on the SAT.</p>
<p>Also, 115+ in TOEFL is entirely possible. I know plenty of English as a Second or Third language students who received near perfect scores.</p>
<p>Actually Mega is right. I don’t think you know the situation properly in Korea. The average may be 72 but that’s only because - and this is only an assumption - middle school students in Korea take it too. To get into the best higher institutions in Korea - Yonsei, Korea, and Seoul National - you need at least a 117. And this is like a fact that everybody in Korea knows.
I’m applying to all three this year and I only have a 116 on the Toefl… :/</p>
<p>I am applying for the Ivy League(Ex. Dartmouth). What do you think about my scores, and my chances?
It was the first time that I took the TOEFL and I received a total of 653 out of 677.</p>
<p>Guys, stop obsessing. For American universities, once you’ve reached the threshold they require (it may be 61, 79, 85, 90, or 100, typically) they move on to your other test results. Your TOEFL score being higher than the required number ONLY matters IF you don’t present any other test. If you’re applying to a competitive college, they’ll require the SAT or the ACT and THAT’s where you make the difference.
Some scores presented here are impressive but they don’t really matter. For truly selective schools (think top 10 NUs and top 10 LACs) the difference isn’t made on test scores once you’ve met the targets for your applicant pool.</p>
<p>MYOS1634 is absolutely right. I never went through the “Korean education system” but as a Korean who studied abroad I know that Koreans are overly obsessive about test scores.</p>
<p>For US colleges, the important thing about TOEFL is to just pass the threshold. After that, they will look at your SAT CR score and various APs more than TOEFL. Just consider TOEFL as an admission ticket into the selection game. Nothing more and nothing less.</p>
<p>That threshold will be well met if you have a 110+ score. Also, I’m an international student but never even took the TOEFL as I had a 690 on SAT CR + few other requirements depending on the college. Most colleges will have a similar waiver (eg: 650+ on SAT CR + 2yr in English school) so be on the lookout for those if you don’t want to sit for the long TOEFL test.</p>