<p>I know this is probably a dumb question, considering all of them are uber-selective. But which Ivy is the easiest to get into?</p>
<p>Cornell University</p>
<p>Cornell I think</p>
<p>Cornell.</p>
<p>next is upenn as far as cas go.</p>
<p>but you know what they say about Cornell....it's the easiest ivy to get into, but the hardest one to stay in. ;)</p>
<p>^Agreed, Cornell. Particularly if you apply for early decision. But beware of Cornell's "pressure cooker" academic reputation once you get there.</p>
<p>Agree, Cornell. Although acceptance rate is not a perfect predictor of selectivity, it's a pretty good rough guideline.</p>
<h1>Admitted, #Applied, Acceptance Rate %</h1>
<p>Harvard 2058 22955 8.97%
Princeton 1791 18942 9.46%
Yale 1860 19323 9.63%
Columbia 2210 21343 10.35%
Brown 2577 19044 13.53%
Dartmouth 2165 14176 15.27%
Penn 3610 22634 15.95%
Cornell 6229 30382 20.50%
[url=<a href="http://www.hernandezcollegeconsulting.com/resources/early2007statistics.html%5Dreference%5B/url">http://www.hernandezcollegeconsulting.com/resources/early2007statistics.html]reference[/url</a>]</p>
<p>I also agree, as an alum, that Cornell is academically rigorous, more so than most of the other ivys (which can be good or bad).</p>
<p>^^ How do you know Cornell is more rigorous than the other Ivys? I have always wondered how people can say their school is more ___ than another, when they haven't attended both.</p>
<p>^I don't know this for a certainty, but my guess would be that if you reviewed the average undergraduate gpa for each of the Ivy League schools, you would find the lowest average to be at Cornell. From what I gather from friends who have attended Cornell, this is not a reflection of the quality of Cornell's student body vis a vis the other Ivys, but rather evidence of Cornell's well-deserved reputation for academic rigor and grade deflation.</p>
<p>Most of us (at Cornell) had close friends or relatives at other ivys, and we'd compare notes. I had a friend on the track team who had an identical twin at Yale, same major, and we determined that we spent a lot more time studying than his twin brother and his friends at Yale. Maybe it just took us longer to learn...</p>
<p>I think Cornellians just complain more. It offers education as good (as rigorous) as Yale or Harvard but because the student body isn't quite as smart, it seems harder.</p>
<p>Look at the median grades of Cornell's AEM classes--bunch of A- (some even A). It's probably the most grade INFLATED undergrad business program out there.</p>
<p>"because the student body isn't quite as smart, it seems harder."</p>
<p>Riiiiiiiight. Because a 100-point difference in SAT scores means it isn't as smart. Or because the acceptance rate isn't 10%. Or because you don't need to be a national winner of a competition, etc. to get in.</p>
<p>Really, the average student at Harvard is going to be as smart as the average student at Cornell, or Northwestern, or Berkeley, or Vanderbilt. You're splitting hairs if you try to say that "student body X is student body Y because of statistics Z." It's really pointless.</p>
<p>Cornell has several diverse colleges. Arts and Sciences is almost as hard to get into as Dartmouth. </p>
<p>Engineering is almost as hard to get into as MIT and Caltech. </p>
<p>The other schools are special-interest schools. Only students with an interest and experience in Industrial and Labor Relations apply and get into that school. ILR is the best school of its kind. </p>
<p>Only students interested and experienced in Hotel Management apply and get into the Hotel school. The Hotel school is the best in the world. </p>
<p>Only students interested and experienced in Art and Architecture apply and get into the Architecture school. Architecture school is the best in the world.</p>
<p>The Agriculture school is the best in the world.</p>
<p>The undergrad business program AEM is ranked 12 in the country by US News.</p>
<p>So, don't be deceived by admit rates at Cornell. In many of the schools you must have special talents and/or experience.</p>
<p>And, keep in mind that Cornell is large. The Cornell freshman class contains the Harvard or Dartmouth freshman class (their equivalents).</p>
<p>I do think 100 point SAT is a significant difference, although never have gotten the impression that is way Cornell has a reputation of being more rigorous. Acceptance rate isn't as telling because that can have more to do with marketing to more people that have no chance of getting in. Another thing is a higher % of Cornell is studying engineering than at any of the other Ivys. I wouldn't exactly lump Vanderbilt in with those other schools.</p>
<p>I leafed through a book in a large bookstore (I wish I could reference the book), that reflected a survey of Ivy League students. Cornell students reported spending the most time out of class studying, by a fair margin. Dartmouth was second, but was really part of the pack.
There may be an Avis psychology at Cornell- "we try harder".
For those too young to remember, Avis was always second to Hertz, and would advertise "we try harder".</p>
<p>gellino: do you consider Stanford students to be any less bright than Harvard students because there's an 80-point difference in average SAT scores? I wouldn't think so.</p>
<p>There isn't an 80-point difference between Harvard and Stanford.</p>
<p>Precisely. There isn't such a large gap between the two in student "brightness." But in SAT scores, there is an 80-point gap. Assuming that we can derive the average from the 25-75 percentiles:</p>
<p>Stanford:</p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading: 660 - 760
SAT Math: 680 - 780
SAT Writing: 660 - 760
Average: 2150</p>
<p>Harvard:
SAT Critical Reading: 690 - 800
SAT Math: 700 - 790
SAT Writing: 690 - 780
Average: 2230</p>
<p>-.- yet another question of this sort (you can find a ton if you do a simple search). As someone who's attended two of the ivies, Penn and Cornell:</p>
<p>Sure, Cornell is the "easiest" to get into (note scare quotes), largely because of its bigger student body. But I agree with collegehelp. Cornell's L&S stats are comparable to those of Penn and Brown, and other colleges (e.g., ILR and human ecology) look for credentials apart from numbers so pure comparisons of admission rates or SAT scores are not meaningful.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as "students at an ivy X" being smarter than Cornell's because of a hundred-point difference on average SAT scores. What people must realize is that there is no objective way to rank the schools terms of students' intelligence, which varies between persons, majors, and colleges (e.g., Cornell's hotel school and architecture students are the brightest in the nation; engineering students brightest in the ivies, allegedly). The closest way is to approximate them in packs, which would put Cornell, Brown, and Penn (except Wharton) at around the same level.</p>