What's the whole point of this?

<p>I don't know a single person from HYSP who wasn't a "professional" like a doctor, lawyer, dentist, etc...</p>

<p>Guess going to HYSP really pays off</p>

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Jobs look at what college you went to heavily, as do grad schools. After all, a 4.0 at south georgia U isn't as hard as a 4.0 at caltech

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<p>I disagree...a furure employer could care less of prestige of a university, rather the talent of the employee. Who would employer prefer to have, a state university student who is talented, or a Harvard graduate who is not quite talented. As I have said a multitude of times, how well you perform in the workforce determines your success, not the name of a college.</p>

<p>^^ Well generally people who go to ivies work hard and are smarter and more motivated than regular students (They had to get into the school the first place!)</p>

<p>Because after 17 years I have realized that 99% of what people talk about is total and absolute **<strong><em>. I want to go to a good college because I don't want to hang around people who spew *</em></strong>* (I'll do enough ********ting to compensate for everyone). As for those who might argue that "titles" and such aren't that big, ever seen a PhD defend his thesis (in a math or science field at a respected university)?</p>

<p>^Yeah, people who attend state universities are idiots and losers who spew trash. Right, good one there, friend! Talk about elitism, my golly!</p>

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yeah, but ivy league students work very hard, are very motivated, and are smarter than the generic american college (They had to work hard to get in!).... So the employer will pick the hard working and dedicated ivy league students...</p>

<p>It has been shown in several studies that the success of students who go to Ivies is right on par with the success of students who are accepted to Ivies but choose to go to other schools for various reasons (fin aid, distance, etc). What this basically means is that the type of person you are matters infinitely more than where you end up going to college.
Food for thought.</p>

<p>Jobs look at what college you went to heavily, as do grad schools.</p>

<p>not true</p>

<p>when it really comes down to it, companies want the person who will provide the best quality work. they don't care where the person came from as long as they get more money. i know people who graduated from small local colleges making more than others with a phd from mit because they knew how to do the work while the person from mit could not provide the same quality.</p>

<p>^Precisely!!!!!!!! That is what I have said all along!</p>

<p>I desperately want salary stats going out of college. These would be absolutely awesome.</p>

<p>One question, populism from a "Robert E. Lee" the aristocratic confederate general?</p>

<p>FYI, I was speaking of differential and his elitist attitude towards students of common universities. And how was General Lee aristocratic?</p>

<p>I feel like a lot of people are obsessed with Ivies because they think it'll be a first-class ticket to...something. The thought process isn't complete, but it's compelling.
And some people directly correlate their self worth with their ability to get into an Ivy League school. If you get in, it's an affirmation of your secret suspicion that you're awesome and a genius. And if you get rejected, you're worthless.
Essentially because teenagers need something to stress about or else we have free time in which to write more terrible emo music.</p>

<p>In my opinion, there are reasons to go to a Top College and reasons not to. If one wanted to, say, climb the coperate latter, then a average or state school is a wonderful choice. However, in an example of my cousin, he went to weslyan, then Yale, and his FIRST job out of college was a vice-president at Random House. I think that Yale Alumni got him that job. Second, if one wants to move to the top of a research field then a Top College is a huge plus. In my case, I want to study economics so I am hoping to go to University of Chicago. At Chicago I will be taught be proffs with Nobel prizes in the field and many contacts.</p>

<p>stop acting everybody. you know you want the iny. this isnt gonna increase your chance of acceptance or anything. just stop, and say the truth.</p>

<p>I am not just speaking of ivies, but top tier schools and ivies in general. </p>

<pre><code> I have an idea. Lets all go to state universities, not burden ourselves or your parents with 170000 of debt, and walk away with a diploma in a certain degree. Okay? Stop worrying about SAT scores, or your ECs. The bottom line is that your state university will accept you with open arms; gee whiz, they probably will even PAY for your tuition. Okay?

Now that we all have made this decision, STOP worrying about your SAT scores. If you received a 1900 out of 2400, don't retake or worry! Sounds like a plan, eh?

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<p>^^But to have that state school pay for your tuition...you actually should be concerned with your SAT scores, and your ECs, and everything--because it's just as competitive as getting into a top school; only the best get the cash. Getting a full ride scholarship from my state school was harder than getting into Stanford. Or maybe that's only because it felt harder because I had to go dress up, interview, and endure a day long ordeal of presentations and such with other candidates.</p>

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^Correct! An institution of higher learning does not equate self-worth! Gee whiz!

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<p>GEE WHIZ! Omg, its Wally Cleaver!</p>

<p>^^Nope! Most state schools give full ride scholarships based upon financial status or race. I was somewhat ambiguous in my previous post. SAT and GPA should still be important, but not to the extreme that some take it here on College Confidential.</p>