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4. The vast majority of kids who attend ivies did so by their parents wills and madates. "Prestige" took precedence over economy and education
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This is one of the most ignorant, uniformed pieces of trash I have ever encountered. I feel sorry for you.</p>
<p>I can respond to this. We have a son in school and our daughter was accepted to Harvard and is receiving financial aid. Our family income is ~ 200K.</p>
<p>Kramer,</p>
<pre><code> Why is this so ignorant? I am somewhat befuddled.
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<p>Are you kidding? You just lumped several thousand students into one broad, bad category. It is completely untrue. You say you hate how people say kids at state universities are all dumb yet you yourself think almost the same about those at top schools. It's hypocritical.</p>
<p>Actually, I don't want to argue. Let's settle this.</p>
<p>You can be successful from anywhere, which is why you should follow your heart. If Harvard is the best fit for you, then go there (if you get in). Likewise, if Coastal Carolina is the best fit, then go there. </p>
<p>Can we stop now?</p>
<p>I never said that kids at ivies are dumb. Never!</p>
<pre><code> I concur, Kramer! Whether state or ivy, a college education will make the difference in your future success.
This I can agree!
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Do you suppose if you made somewhere in the 150K+ salary range, and you applied to Harvard, or Yale and noted that you were requesting financial aid, they would basically throw your application in the trash bin? Just curious how they would view someone like this.
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Uhh, no. If applying EA/ED to a school, your app will likely be due around Nov 1. You hear back in the middle of December. Your FAFSA/CSS PROFILE/tax forms aren't due until February or so, if I remember correctly. They don't even know what your financial situation is until after they decide on you - I really think that this is not a factor in the college's admit/reject decision. </p>
<p>As far as I know, Undergraduate Admissions and Financial Aid are separate entities (although usually grouped together under some umbrella office) in most, if not all, of the 'elite' need-blind schools.</p>
<p>compare the average salary of someone graduating from community college and the average salary of someone graduating from harvard...</p>
<p>One normally transfers from a community college to a four year university rather than graduate from a CC.</p>
<p>Elitism, much? Shall we all just bow down now and worship those ivy league students/grads? After all, they ARE far superior to us simpletons.</p>
<p>^^exactly! (this isn't sarcasm btw)</p>
<p>Glad I've got my attitude straightened out :D</p>
<p>why has this horrible thread been resurrected???</p>
<p>Perhaps that "stupid" person at a CC went there for the sole purpose of saving $$$. Perhaps that "stupid" person wants to be debt free after graduating. There is nothing "stupid" about saving money. What is "stupid" is attending an ivy for mere prestige and ending up with an inexorable debt of a mere "120,000.00"</p>
<p>In the end, it's kind of hard to change one's mindset. I guess some were raised into the "Ivy-or-failure" mindset, and we can't really change that. Perhaps one day after college they'll realize that prestige isn't everything.</p>
<p>Robert E. Lee, use your common sense (if you have any)... ON AVERAGE do you think people who graduate from University of Alabama will as much money as people who graduate from Harvard or MIT?</p>
<p>^har har....read through the past pages of this thread. I do not ONCE AGAIN want to post my arguments.</p>
<p>Has anyone pointed out that if you're going into, say, academia, it DOES matter where your degree comes from?</p>
<p>"Really! Everyone here obsesses on going to a "prestigious, competitive," college or university. But why? In the end, if you go to Harvard or a common state university, you still walk away with a piece of paper called a diploma in the end. Why obsess with an "ivy league" or super competitve institution?"</p>
<p>Some people go for the name. "Oh look I've gone to Harvard." Parents will be immensely proud of this child. Friends will "wow" them. They get admiration for that. Some want the experience. Sometimes, I feel like the experience is more valuable and even more memorable than what we get at the end.</p>
<p>I believe the college "experience" in general can be achieved at almost any state university of college.</p>