what's up with the super low acceptance

<p>^^I for one used my Personal Statement in the Common App for Columbia, and I got in. I would bet plenty others did it too.</p>

<p>Epaminondas, I’d love to read that. You have a gift with words, bro.</p>

<p>^ I am thrilled at the compliment, hellojan. But I noticed many posters on CC are much more talented writers.</p>

<p>okay, so not really hard, but easily harder than the common app. Georgetown’s was lame. and berkeley’s was a pain.</p>

<p>I just looked back at my application, and I sent in my generic common app personal statement.</p>

<p>damn, i guess i won’t be doing ED Columbia then. My choice would be 1. Columbia 2. Princeton 3. Cornell 4. Dartmouth. But i got to put myself in the best position to succeed so i’ll be doing Cornell ED. Hey, at least they are in the same state.</p>

<p>^^^ why did you decide this?</p>

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<p>Not very well. I used my common app essay for the columbia essay word for word.</p>

<p>Fastfood15- well i’m in Canada so i have to apply to 2 different university systems which is a lot of work. So i’m really hoping to get into ED so i don’t have to apply to other schools. I really love Columbia, but i think i have a greater chance at Cornell. I feel like i’m competitive enough for Columbia, but i’ll play the percentages game and go with Cornell. (imagine if i got rejected at Cornell lmao, that would suck and destroy all my hope of going to US)</p>

<p>If you want to play the game, then don’t apply ED anywhere. EA is your smart move. I’m not sure if it’s actually allowed, but I know some people last year did Columbia ED and University of Chicago EA. If I had to do it all over again I would do that. Or perhaps Yale SCEA</p>

<p>applying SCEA is = applying ED in the sense that you can only apply to one program of its kind. but you could apply to multiple EA programs, just not advised and totally ******y.</p>

<p>@concoll: i think Brown’s reservoirs are tapped out. they went to common app this year and it explains their rise, considering they went up 20% in terms of applicants and columbia without common app went up 15% my guess is that Brown’s actual natural increase was 8-9%, and it has had a far slower growth pace than CU.</p>

<p>plus in tough economies, the more practical, job-oriented schools far best (believed to have more perceived value) - CU as you well point out has more solid connections with industry. i think Brown has joined the elites and catapulted in recent years to put Dmouth in its dust, but it seems it is more in the end of a growth spurt than the beginning of one. whereas columbia has probably had the most incredible growth over the last decade - could it be ending, maybe, but a school that competed with amherst’s numbers to now being in the 25k club (and do it without switching over to the commonapp), is quite impressive.</p>

<p>SAT 1: CR 690 M 800 W 710 SAT 2: M2 800 Physics 800<br>
Grades: 93% No class rank, should be top 10
-Varsity Basketball (grade 11 and 12) house league (grade 10)
-Concert Band (grade 9, 10, 11)
-Robotics Club (grade 10, 11, and 12) Captain of the VEX team
-Investment Club, for Laurier University mock stock contest (grade 11, 12) Co-founder
-Reading Buddies at the library (grade 10, 11, 12) Does it counts as a leadership? A teacher/mentor?
-Math tutor (volunteer) (grade 11, 12)
-volunteer at various festivals and tournaments (through out HS) <-should i even put that down as an out of school EC
-Work at KFC, Little Caesars</p>

<p>^ those are some set-in stone info plus the fact that my school isn’t competitive but there’s no mark inflation.
Right now i’m contemplating several options:

  1. Columbia ED + Yale SECA, then Cornell + Dartmouth + Princeton RD
  2. Cornell ED, then Columbia + Dartmouth + Princeton RD
  3. Dartmouth ED, then Cornell + Columbia + Princeton RD
    Which option will give the best chance? In all honesty, i’d be happy at any of these schools. As I stated before, getting accepted ED is of great importance to me so which option fits me the best?</p>

<p>shuai - you don’t get it.</p>

<p>if you can be happy at all three of those schools then you shouldn’t apply ED to any. why? because they are all really different. if you just want it done with and over with, then i think you should realize your chance of admission diminishes. schools care about specificity - how specifically are you a good match to their program.</p>

<p>they dont’ look at you and say - well, i could be happy with him.</p>

<p>so if you want to game the system, well do it, tell me how it works out for you. it might turn out great and dandy, or you might end up disappointed. oftentimes treating the process with respect is a good way to actually go somewhere you want. otherwise you sound (as you do here) pretty arrogant, and karma has a funny way of kicking arrogant people in the butt.</p>

<p>btw - i rarely do chance threads, but I think you need a reality check and consider schools outside the Ivies, i’ll give you an honest assessment. you are borderline ED for Columbia, a bit below for RD (not impossible, but the other stuff have to standout - letters of rec, essay). not in range at all for Yale. things to pull yourself up - improve GPA, if you have any awards attached to your current work with Robotics. also i do this slightly blind because i don’t know what your major thought is or the other components of the application - nor where you are applying from. my guess is you are engineering or economics, right? i think you should look closer at eng schools and engineering programs at good schools, as they might be a good fit and also cater to what is clearly your strength.</p>

<p>well first of all, i only throw Yale in there because Fastfood suggested it =) but i most definitely won’t apply
But i actually really love Columbia and literary spent hours browsing its website. But i got a reality check when i read the statistics. Now, i’m starting to look more closely at my 2 other top picks in Dartmouth and Cornell. Dartmouth is similar to the town i live in right now so i probably will be more comfortable there. But the ED rate for Cornell is a staggering 40%. To me, that’s too good of a thing to pass up.
Anyways, i’m from a small town in Ontario, Canada and i’m looking to do like a dual Economic- Philosophy or Economic- Statistic. I’m only applying to reaches in US and some safeties in Canada. Here, a 80% is a A. So my average is a like a 4.0 GPA. My grade can gain me acceptance to all the good programs in Canada so i’m not too worried about that (we have this grade system for admission, once you are over, you are in). I know i pale against some of the more accomplished applicants that’s why i want to maximize my chance of getting in, preferable Columbia. For me, its like: a gold medal is nice, but a podium finish is a top priority. You know what i mean. I prepared for the SATs too much to be struck in canada.</p>

<p>i know the canadian system, and that does change things. 93% is very good in canada. agreed.</p>

<p>i think you do not get the college admissions process. there is no such thing as a podium of sorts. you have constructed this relationship. you are also thinking about things with too much emphasis on probability and not qualitative ideas like desire. you can figure out what you have a shot at, but you should also figure out where you want to go.</p>

<p>i could be admitted to Cornell, but i’d soon jump off a gorge before attending. i am not cut out for that kind of life and the kind of kids that predominate cornell and dmouth. you might be! but i think you should verify that first. and you say you are not at all particular now - but this may change. so find a better pick. plus i think that some schools outside of the ivies might offer comparable if not better academic experiences in things like econ or stat</p>

<p>and i hope that your english is better on the application though - you have a lot of nasty errors here that are pretty lazy (you don’t want to be struck in canada).</p>

<p>further re: economics - i have found that there is a higher burden of proof on prospective econ majors than other majors because most of these schools are flooded with them. so a curiosity of econ is not a sufficient condition to be admitted to econ. you need a more well-developed understanding if not research into the subject. not saying you don’t have any - but a point i felt worth sharing.</p>

<p>yeah, i guess i was a little too carried away with numbers and percentages.
What do you mean i have nasty errors that are pretty lazy? Like were you talking about the misspelled word “stuck”?or that my language isn’t formal
As for the economics major, i thought i’m only applying to the Art and Science College. Does choosing a specific major matter a lot in the admission process?
I’ll say i like the kind of people at Dartmouth, after some research, its actually really similar to my town. Though i might want a change of scenary, hence NYC</p>

<p>I applied to Georgetown and UChicago EA. There is nothing sketch about that. I was very passionate about both until I got into Columbia. </p>

<p>The reason I discouraged Cornell ED was because I was under the impression that the OP would have a good chance at other schools. </p>

<p>I think the OP should look into Chicago. </p>

<p>AdmissionGeek, why has Columbia increased in popularity in the past decade?</p>

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<p>People also fail to realize that there are people who DON’T APPLY to COLUMBIA for the simple fact that it is in NYC. Many of my friends thought it was crazy to go to college in the city and wanted to spend four years on the green lawns in Princeton. </p>

<p>I speculate that Columbia loses around 5000 applicants a year because of this.</p>

<p>Yes indeed, Watson, 5000 sounds like a reasonable number … that you pulled out of your a$$</p>