<p>ashernm: cornell is far underrated.</p>
<p>most of it's difficulties stem from it's reputation. it has a lower yield rate, a higher admit rate, all because students view it as the 10th ivy, because it doesn't rank well, because it doesn't get good numbers, because it doesnt have that great rep, because it doesnt rank, because fewer students want to go there, because.......u see</p>
<p>so taking in these problems, and factoring the reverse for Harvard, Columbia, Penn (nowadays, it seems), and Brown</p>
<p>you can see how the most realistic list of undergrad school in the IL:</p>
<p>1) Princeton
2) Yale
3) Penn
4) Cornell
5) Columbia
5) Dartmouth (which i'm not too familiar with, but presumably shares some of the same effects as cornell <em>cough</em> rural <em>cough</em> animal house)
7) Brown
8) Harvard</p>
<p>the yield rate: rep causes it to be a safety ivy within the ivies
the admit rate: the low yield rate forces up the admit rate
the sat ranges: cornell could push it higher, but they want the best, most driven students possible, and place less weight on SAT's than other ivies
the area: is really nice. yeah, it's in the middle of nowhere, and the nearest airport is a good 70 minute drive, but it is a beautiful area, the campus is self sustaining, and it is much safer than some other ivies <em>cough</em> columbia, penn, harvard, YALE
i mean come on, new haven is in the middle of nowhere too, and it is a he11hole. but yale can stay afloat by it's name (which affects more than just prospective students. students arent trying to transfer into harvard in their sophomore year, faculty are more likely to come to a name like yale or princeton, private entities tend to donate more)</p>
<p>in sum: cornell is so much better than it gets credit for</p>