When do we sign up for courses?

<p>I have no clue what’s going on. Does anybody know:</p>

<li><p>How do we get our course signup materials and when? Do we have time to get help from our advisors at the beginning of the school year?</p></li>
<li><p>How many classes do freshmen normally take per semester? </p></li>
<li><p>Are all classes only semester-long?</p></li>
<li><p>Is it a bad idea to take: Intro to Chem, Bio, and Math 104 all in the same semester?</p></li>
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<li><p>June 1 we get to sign up for courses online at campusexpress. we can contact our advisors over the summer for help.</p></li>
<li><p>freshmen usually take 4 classes a semester.</p></li>
<li><p>not all classes are only one semester long, but MOST are. i know i have a year long seminar.</p></li>
<li><p>i dont think thats a bad idea if youre a science person.</p></li>
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<p>actually, class signup is on penn-in-touch, not campusexpress...</p>

<p>college kids usually take 4 a semester, unless premed or other intensive program, in which case they'd take 5, as do whartonites, engineers, and nursing kids (usually).</p>

<p>oh oops okay</p>

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<p>So are you saying that they're not hard? I heard that they are very difficult... wouldn't it be better to spread them out?</p>

<p>you'll be able to take more advanced (more interesting) science and math classes earlier if you take those classes as soon as possible.</p>

<p>watch out, bumblebee is a troll master! Terminate with extreme prejudice.</p>

<p>does anyone know when transfers sign up for classes?</p>

<p>arp why are you in the penn forum, you stalker</p>

<p>June 1 really the sign up date?</p>

<p>No. Freshman registration does not begin until June 25th and it lasts through July 27th. You will be getting information about this in the mail (and online) from whatever school you were admitted to. Don't freak out about anything now.</p>

<p>If you are a hard-core science person, go ahead and try to take Chem, Bio, and Math 104 together. They are all tough courses, but if you really want to get to the upper level classes as fast as possible it's not a terrible idea.</p>

<p>BUT if you are a pre-med (like me) and are taking them for those requirements, do NOT take those all together. The classes ARE hard and will involve intense studying. Most pre-meds take Math with either Bio OR Chem their freshman year (most take Bio, although I did the reverse) and then do the other one plus physics during sophomore year. </p>

<p>In my experience, general chemistry and intro biology were probably the two classes I've had to study the most for at Penn. Labs will take up a huge chunk of your time, and the amount of material covered and time required to secure a good grade is immense. So be cautious.</p>

<p>Thanks a ton, countrytoconcrete, because I want to be premed... I'm also thinking about majoring in psychology, so where would I put in Psych 001?</p>

<p>Oh, and aren't bio/chem semester-long, so I could take bio for one semester of freshman year and chem for the other? </p>

<p>Is math a year long?</p>

<p>To fulfill the pre-med requirements, you need a year of both bio and chem. Bio is split up into Bio 101 and 102 (called "Intro to Biology A" and "Intro to Biology B") or 121 and 122 (the advanced version of intro bio, which is not worth unless you took AP Bio and did very well. Even then they are very hard courses). Likewise, intro to Chem is split up into two semesters, Chem 101 and 102. </p>

<p>Math is only a semester, although for most med schools you should take a year of math. If you only take one semester it will limit your options to some extent when you begin applying for medical schools, so the pre-health advisers tend to recommend that you take a year. Students satisfy this in one of two ways. First, you can take Math 104 followed by either Math 114 or 115. If you want to apply to Harvard Med, Johns Hopkins Med, or Washington Univ Med, Math 114 is REQUIRED. For any other med school that requires a second semester, you can also take a statistics course, most commonly Stat 111. My advice to you would be that if you do not care if you go to one of those three med schools, go the easier route and take Stat 111. If you want to try for those schools, you have no choice but to take Math 114.</p>

<p>As for Psych 001... I have never taken it so I can't speak on the difficulty of the class, but from what I've heard I think you can take it freshman year. Additionally, I've heard that psych 001 is good background almost all other psych classes, so if you are thinking of majoring in it you should take 001 as soon as you can. </p>

<p>Hopefully that helps. If you have other questions feel free to ask! And if anybody else thinks my advice is completely off-the-wall, please share. I am speaking mainly from my own experience and from those of my "pre-med friends," but clearly different people take different routes to fulfilling all of the requirements.</p>

<p>don't forget organic chem and lab!</p>

<p>Right... Most Penn premeds take OChem lecture Junior year and OChem lab senior year. You can take lab with lecture, but the lab is really intense and so it's relatively rare for people to take them together.</p>

<p>What about taking Math 114 for Penn Med? Isn't it in the same league as "those other three" you listed?</p>

<p>On that note: I have heard less than complimentary things about Math 104, if it is possible to place out of with Calc BC would this be advisable? Right now going pre-med if that changes anything.</p>

<p>uhhh ok so now im confused. there are like 80 million options for just one regular class. how do i know what professor i want or what time i want it at or anything at all about the class..... the penn course review thing isn't too helpful b/c it isnt personal at all, just full of ratings. who do i ask?</p>

<p>and WHO IS STAFF??? why does he teach everything!?!?!</p>

<p>staff means that a professor hasn't been assigned yet. there's no "professor staff" as far as i know.</p>