<p>I'm in-state 11% student.
anyone know when I get the decision?</p>
<p>probably at the end</p>
<p>i'm oos and was notified already...so anytime now...</p>
<p>March/April. Sorry. They sent a postcard before the Holiday break saying so.</p>
<p>Think about it. In a state this big, there are probably thousands of top 10% people who either just sent their apps or still haven't sent them because they know they'll get in no matter what.</p>
<p>That honestly sucks, because i am top 12% and blah. </p>
<p>I really hope i get in but i just died a little inside when i read what reddogarchie said: "In a state this big, there are probably thousands of top 10% people who either just sent their apps..."</p>
<p>the word THOUSAND...sigh.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, that's the case with UT. The freshman class will be at least 13,000 kids. You have to remember that UT is the largest university in the country. BUT after this year or in the years to come, even the in-state top 10% will have to worry. UT is trying to go through legislature and get that rule removed. So it's going to suck for most people in the future - but UT is just getting a bit TOO big.</p>
<p>But as long as you have good stats, don't lose hope. Seriously.</p>
<p>THe UT closure for the past 3 days due to MLK Day and the ice won't help their timetable I'm afraid.</p>
<p>although i am in the top 10%, i think the top 10% rule should be banned... it is not practical.</p>
<p>i agree with margsala its all crap im top 10 percent in a rural school and im lazy but what i have seen at my school of the 36 people in the top ten percent only about ten would even pass at UT because they are a bunch of idiots that just do there work...</p>
<p>I would say March is when they start coming in. I REALLY hate the top ten percent rule. I have better test scores then some people who are like one of the top ten students in their class, yet I have a hard time getting in.</p>
<p>If you are going to trash people about their academic ability, at least use proper grammar - ;)</p>
<p>can't touch this - "there work" should be their work</p>
<p>foxshox - "better scores then some" should be better scores than some</p>
<p>It aint that seriously 'Ag54.'</p>
<p>I aint never said it was serios. I jus get sic and tired of heering peepel say that the top 10@ peepel are stoopid. Mabee if the peepel trashing has takken care of there bidness they wood be in the top 10@ to.</p>
<p>^^^^you go girl! :)</p>
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I aint never said it was serios. I jus get sic and tired of heering peepel say that the top 10@ peepel are stoopid. Mabee if the peepel trashing has takken care of there bidness they wood be in the top 10@ to.
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Well, there goes the meaning of sarcasm!</p>
<p>AG54 shut it, do you even live in this state? For some people the top 10% rule is **<strong><em>. In my community there is a strong concentration of asians and indians. They have no social life, and they strategically take classes to get into top 10%. While people like me believe that if I take the hardest courses i can, then they will look kindly upon that. At my school, you need a 3.9/4.0 UW GPA for top 10%, out of a class size of 695, out top 10 people demographics are as follows: 3 koreans, 3 asians, 2 whites, 4 browns. 3 Koreans i know b/c they are 1,2,3. So, someone like me with a 33 on ACT, but a 3.46 GPA is screwed, and I have no chance of getting into UT pretty much, yet at the same time, im getting scholorships out the ass for Ohio State University. Top 10% rule is in affect b/c some minority *</em></strong><em>ed about affirmative action, and the rest of the state high school students got F-ed over. Top 10% rule is trash, especially at schools like mine, where there is no learning, its just how much can i cheat? Teachers are bums and dont punish them, so they keep cheating. Now that i reflect back upon my HS expeirence, i wish i would have just said "screw hard classes, take ez classes, and AP classes with easy teachers, take my 4.1 and get out of there, o ya and cheat as much as possible" It sucks when i see the retard next to me in English just copy problem for problem the brown kid across from him. Anyways im bored *</em>ing now, peace. </p>
<p><strong>Ya sorry but that stuff really upsets me</strong></p>
<p>Well, TDrag, that was certainly a strongly worded post.</p>
<p>Yes, I live in the state. I have 2 children who have both been accepted to UT, one a top 10%er and one not. We are not, as you so impolitely put it, brown. We aren't asian or indian. </p>
<p>My s who is in the top 10% this year has an extremely social life and is busy beyond the classroom - just to give you a little background on him, he is a 3 year varsity starter on the football team, which won their district, being undefeated this year (5A large suburban Houston) and went pretty deep in the playoffs, He was named all district for the last 2 years as a fullback and middle linebacker, he is a 3 year varsity starter on his lacrosse team and has played on a Texas tournament team in the summer, he also plays 7 on 7 for the highschool in the summer, he has been on student council and is currently on the executive board. He is pretty darned social, his dance-card is full as they used to say in the old days. </p>
<p>With all of that going on in his life he also is tied for valedictorian at his school - he doesn't cheat, he obviously doesn't study all the time, he just learned how to take care of his business at an early age. He also took the hardest courses available at our school. A number of others tied with him are also extremely well rounded kids, one girl in particular is not only stunningly beautiful, she also has earned a D1 scholarship to play volleyball - she is my son's date to prom ;). </p>
<p>My other son was not in the top 10%, he was a brilliant slacker, he had a GPA of 3.39, an SAT score of over 1500, was a NMF. He drove me crazy in that he didn't study and he didn't always do the work that was assigned. He knows now that if he had just taken care of his business while in hs he could have done much better grade-wise than he did. He is now a sophomore at the University of Florida on a full academic scholarship and is doing beautifully - he chose UF over UT because they offered more money.</p>
<p>I find it insulting that people say such degrading things about people that are in the top 10% when I know for a fact that much of what they say is total c**p. </p>
<p><strong><em>That stuff really upsets me</em></strong>*</p>
<p>Grats on your kids, i guess you did a good job bringing them up. (Not Sarcasm, they sound pretty legit from what you tell me)</p>
<p>But, the key word in my post is My School. I know almost all of the top 10 people, becasue they are in all of my classes. I am not saying they aren't cool. But, they just don't do much besides study. And, they all cheat horribly, everyone in the top 10 excpet our 1 and 3 cheats horribly. I can say this for certain, becasue i sit next to them. These kids get the Calculus BC test 2nd period, and they have the test 7th period. They get like 4 hours to sit there and sutdy it. This has been happening forever. All of the minorities in MY school stick together. On one hand it really upsets me, on the other its actually ingenious, because they are all going to UT and most are in top 10%. </p>
<p>Exaple:
Not that I really blame, I know these kids stories, one of my good friends is #2, and he is hardcore about everything, but that is just because of his parents. They moved here from India, where they use to be rich, comparitavely. But he even tells me that in front of their house was a pasture, and that was considered royalty, and when they moved here the term "rich" took a whole new meaning. His parents pressure him hardcore, to get the job done. He studies, but he is also one of the biggest cheaters i know. Its actually really innovative the methods he uses, but any way you slice it, it's still cheating. He's cheated his way to #2 in our class. This isn't to say that he's not smart, it is just that without cheating he wouldn't be where he is today. On one hand it ticks me off a **** load that he does this, cause it disrespects other people's hardwork. On the other hand I feel sorry for him, because he is getting screwed over. He too was a NMF, but becasue his parents didnt fill some paperwork out correct when he imigrated, he isnt elligable for the scholarship it offers, because he is neither a citizen or a permanent resident. This also really hurts him for FAFSA. So, his parents really pushed him the last 2 years to do whatever he could to get academic scholarships. There are numerous examples of these people at my school, and it sucks for the rest of us.</p>
<p>On the other hand:
There are people like another friend I know, lets call him Nick ^^. Nick went to my school for two years, and realized he couldn't keep up with the competition, so he transfered to a school an hour away in the boonies. Hes top 5% there...out of a class of 50... I talked to him a few weeks ago at a basketball game, and he is ranked 2, and his weighted GPA is only a 3.8. He says the competition there is pathetic, and he gets to have fun in class, and just relax and get easy grades. There are many of these applicants who will get into UT and take up prime spots because of this top 10% rule. That's why if you stat up UT they have a high percent drop out rate after freshmen year. Most of these kids can't keep up, and end up dropping out to go to T-Tech or a more local college, it just depends. </p>
<p>Top 10%:
All im saying is that at MY school 8 % of the top 10% shouldn't be there, or if they were there they would have to step it up incramentally.</p>
<p>Cheating:
Don't take this the wrong way, but you honestly have no clue if your kids have cheated or not. I'm pretty sure kids don't come home and say, "Guess what mom, I cheated so hardcore on my Calc exam and got a 98." Even if you ask them today, they probably wouldn't fess up to it, cause I know I wouldn't. </p>
<p>Just wondering, but how big is the school your sons went to? I think i read 5A, but still just wondering. 5A means 330+, so there are schools like Highland Park with 340 kids, and schools like Plano with 1300 kids, its very ranging.</p>
<p>And AG54 im not blowing smoke up your butt. Just think of this way, I am in high school, I sit next to these kids every day, and I know what they do. I know you have kids that went through the system, but it doesn't mean you know alot about it. My mom has been through the system, and all she can tell you is what I tell her, which isn't much. I don't highlight on the fact that people cheat, I just highlight the good things about people, and mumble the bad ones under my breath.</p>
<p>Anyways my younger sister is here complaining about wanting to get on the internet, Good Game we have dial up. So i'll leave it at this and let you respond/read/laugh at me t.t.</p>
<p>Sorry , but I was venting earlier, cause it was obvious you didn't know 100% of what was going on >,<.</p>
<p>Grats on your kids again. Meh, have a good night =D</p>
<p>I think most of you need to stop complaining. You might have spent too much time posting on these forums instead of studying like all the "asians and indians" ...</p>
<p>the top 10 percent rule gives a great chance to allow minorities to gain acceptance to UT. of course most of you living in Texas, as conservatives, are completely ignorant to giving minorities ANY advantage in society.</p>
<p>not everyone took strategic classes to make the top 10 percent. i, for one, spent a year abroad in a school that had no books, not everyone had chairs to sit in, and teachers never or hardly showed up to class. i was an exchange student in chile for a year.</p>
<p>even with a year abroad in a ****ty school, which seriously hurt my SAT scores (while you all hire tutors to come in and help) ...i made it into the top 10 percent. and my school isn't small. we have 2200+ students and over 600 in my class alone.</p>
<p>stop complaining. most of you are over-achievers and are just not patient enough.</p>
<p>Tdrag, I appreciate you not snarking over my post. Frankly, I regretted it after I posted it because my s would absolutely die if he knew I said that stuff online about him. I just wanted to point out that not all top 10% kids are as sometimes described...</p>
<p>On to your post..</p>
<p>You're right, I cannot say for a fact that my s never cheated. I certainly wasn't there at school with him to check up on his behaviors. But, I do know when he was studying at home. I do know that many times when his friends called to say, "hey, we're going to ?" My son had to say no because he needed to study for something. I know that he sacrificed many things because he was looking forward to more than the weekend ahead, a concept that, at the time, his friends gave him a lot of h**l for. </p>
<p>My point in is that somehow, some way, he decided that grades were important to him. Maybe it was because he saw us yell so much at his older brother that he wanted NO part of that. Maybe it was because he figured out how much he had to put forth and made up his mind he was able to do it. I really don't know. I am just really glad he did.</p>
<p>Most (really all) of his friends are in the same boat as you, waiting to hear if they get in to UT. They've already been accepted at other places, but their dream is to be in Austin. Many of their parents are as frustrated as the kids because back in the good old days when we were going to college, everybody we knew went to UT - obviously there was no top 10% rule. At schools like yours and ours, the kids are extremely well prepared to excel at UT, the classes are rigorous, the expectations are high. In a perfect world, all of the kids who did well in those classes and scored well on the SAT/ACT would be accepted. But, right now, we are all constrained by the 10% rule, and until it is changed we must all live with the consequences of it.</p>
<p>The hs that my kids go to has around 2200 students, the senior class is around 500. This is one of those typical "feeder" high schools - suburban Houston. Everyone expects to go to Texas!! Unfortunately, not all will...</p>
<p>As I said before, my older son was NOT top 10%, in fact he wasnt' even in the top 1/4. He had to wait and wait and wait until hearing from UT (late March, early April!). He finally got that acceptance, but by the time he did, he was so sick of it that he threw it away... He had gotten the offer from UF in February and went to visit. They basically wined and dined him (but no wine) and made him feel like he was really wanted there, and that went a long way with him in his decision making process. He felt that UT really couldn't care less if he was there or not and UF really did (hard to explain to a hs senior that 1 kid really isn't going to make or break a freshman class of over 10000 kids, but it's all in the perception ;) ). It ended up being the best decision he ever made in his life. </p>
<p>From my experience over the last 2 or 3 years, kids that are not top 10% get in, many also do not, it may be that their test scores were great, it may be that they had wonderful leadership in their ec's, or maybe their essays really captured someone's attention, I don't know exactly why, but I do know a large number of non top 10% kids who got in, so don't lose hope. I also know that even if you don't, you can have an incredible college experience. It will be what you make it.</p>