Do the nasal spray versions of the flu vaccine cause similar problems with them? If not, that may be an option.
I’ve been pleased that more places are offering masks and asking sick people to use them. I know they am aren’t 100%?effective at stopping infections but it is better than before.
That said, I have gotten sick both of the times I have served as a medical grant reviewer. The first time, most of the folks present were coughing all three days we were together. This last time, the folks SEEMED healthy. They did offer masks but no one took one or wore one.
It is more effective for the dick person to wear the mask and some of us (especially with lung conditions) can’t tolerate wearing masks at all. :-SS
It does seem like a cancer center should have big signs advising people who are ill to stay away for the protection of the immune compromised patients! [-X
Totally agree, HImom. The University Health center that I used to work at had big signs everywhere that said something along the lines of “if you’re experiencing x symptoms (I think it was like coughing, fever, etc) please go directly to the desk to obtain a mask.”
UCB, people with a weak immune system should not get the nasal spray as it’s a live vaccine. IIRC, at least one of HI’s children has a compromised immune system.
I like your typo, HImom! It’s somehow appropriate.
Whoops! Sorry about that–fat fingers on my phone’s small keyboard. Yes, the flu mist nasal spray is live virus and NOT for folks with lung conditions, including asthma or outside the age range recommended. We are all asthmatic but the bigger problem is the vaccine makes both kids very ill for a long time. Their docs are unanimous that they should NOT get flu vaccines.
It seriously bugs me when anti-vaxxers (and anyone else) use the word “debate”, as in “the debate is worth discussing”. And then they complain that “debate is being stifled”. There is debate only to the extent that people debate whether or not the earth is flat, or martians are hiding in caves up there, or the holocaust never happened, or the moon is made of cheese (or that there’s no such thing as man-made global warning, but that’s another story).
Getting dismissed and laughed out of the room because you’re a lunatic is not the same as having an actual debate stifled.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35975011
This “organic” woman regrets her decision to skip a shot.
I’m confused as to why she isn’t being charged with child endangerment. She willingly put her child in a life or death situation.
I wonder how many other lives she endangered due to her idiocy.
While I agree that she should have been vaccinated and is an idiot, I don’t agree that she should be charged with “child endangerment” @romanigypsyeyes - remember the decision was made while pregnant, and we don’t want to go down the slippery slope of calling pregnancy decisions “child” endangerment, IMO.
At least she was willing to go public and urge others not to make her mistake. It’s not like any of the anti-vax idiots are apologizing to the babies and folks with compromised immune systems who are infected by their children (speaking of reckless endangerment that can’t be prosecuted).
An unexpected benefit of private school was that they are very, very strict about vaccinations and any exceptions to their rules (although I still want them to require annual flu shots). For the twelve years we’ve been there, there’s never been a case of any disease for which there is a vaccination (other than the occasional case of flu of course). I wish we could give our public schools the ability to exclude kids who don’t have a legitimate reason not to be vaccinated.
I admire your efforts at educating the ignorant @romanigypsyeyes, but sometimes you can’t cure stupid. It’s horrible that more people are going to be misled by that “documentary,” but the real lunatic conspiracy theorists aren’t worth the effort. I don’t know any local anti-vaxxers, but I do spend a lot of time explaining to the moms of my son’s teammates why it’s important to get our kids the chlamydia vaccine so we can have herd immunity for all the girls whose mothers won’t get them vaccinated because somehow that will make them have sex (sheesh).
Agree with @fretfulmother . The woman wasn’t refusing shots for her child, but for herself, thinking, mistakenly, that she was healthy and unlikely to get pertussis. We don’t even know if she was anti-vax for her child at all… Deciding that THAT is child endangerment is a slippery slope I want no part of.
There’s a chlamydia vaccine?
The poster must have meant HPV vaccine. As far as I know, there is no chlamydia vaccine yet, but some progress has been reported:
http://jezebel.com/scientists-may-have-finally-discovered-a-chlamydia-vacc-1713484577
Measles outbreak in Arizona because of anti-vaxxers
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-arizona-measles-20160709-snap-story.html
That article is a bit frustrating. How many workers were vaccinated as children? Did they get measles anyway? I know I wouldn’t have “proof” anymore of my childhood vaccine. Do adults need boosters now? I wish it had mentioned that.
You can have a titer run to see if you still have immunity.
Our D has gotten titers several times (blood test). Sometimes, the doc just encouraged her to have a booster vaccination. Fortunately, our insurance covers blood tests at 100%.
I really want to read this whole thread when I have time, but want to say that my husband’s childhood friend, who is a doctor, has a second trophy wife who used to be a pharmaceutical salesman. The two of them have had two children, both of whom are special needs. One, I know, has autism. Another, or perhaps the autistic one, has/had maple syrup syndrome. They live in Alaska, so I have not met the new wife and kids yet. Anyway, they were going to come to the high school reunion, and I was bracing myself for meeting this woman who is a vehement anti-vaccine. Luckily, they canceled their trip. I think the doctor husband just puts up with her rants. Anyway, I was ready for the lecture on visiting third world countries where kids are dying of diseases that the “civilized world” has the opportunity to vaccinate against. My son is 24, and I don’t know how I’d handle if he was school age now, where there were non vaccinated kids in his class. God help us when the grandchildren come. I live in New Orleans, and I remember when the kids died at Tulane from meningitis, and thankfully, the mandatory meningitis vaccine came into being. Hopefully, school age children dying from exposure to nonvaccinated peers will not result in a similar ruling for what was once routine vaccinations.
A friend of mine is in her 60s and has a brace on one leg and struggles to get around. I asked what happened, and she said she got polio when she was 18 months old. She’s active, but her disability really hurts her quality of life. I’m sure she wishes there had been a vaccine when she was a baby!
Strange questions you have to ask before your child or grandchild goes to a birthday party or a play date. Are all the children vaccinated? Are there any guns in the house?