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<p>Can you please explain the relevance as relates to vaccines? Did you receive a chicken pox vaccine? Or did you just happen to contract the same illness twice? If it’s the latter, what is the relevance? In general, with many illnesses, once you have them, you are immune in the future. Of course, there may be the occasional outlier. But we don’t institute policy on the unusual. We should, of course, establish guidelines on what usually happens.</p>
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<p>Someone who actually has been exposed to rabies through an infected bite who refuses the rabies vaccine might not last very long.</p>
<p>It is a little deviation from the subject of the thread, but since we touched the subject of HPV, cervical cancer etc., I wanted to bring this up for the medical professionals (and other interested posters):</p>
<p>[Is</a> Your HPV Test FDA Approved?](<a href=“http://www.tbtam.com/2013/01/your-hpv-test-fda-approved.html#.UjlH86a9K0c]Is”>http://www.tbtam.com/2013/01/your-hpv-test-fda-approved.html#.UjlH86a9K0c)</p>
<p>Depending on how the sample has been collected, HPV test done on that sample might not work giving a false negative reading.</p>
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<p>It would have been tough to get the vaccine and post on the parent’s board, since it hasn’t been around that long. I only posted in response to someone upthread who said that you cannot get chicken pox twice. Others did the same. Some people are outliers, indeed. Sorry if you think it was irrelevant to post, re vaccines. Others have gone off topic, or veered into other public health issues on this thread, as they do go off in different tangents in general on CC. </p>
<p>Some vaccines are not 100%. When that vaccine was first offered to my daughter, we were told it was hovering in 70% effectiveness. We waited a few years, hoping she could potentially be exposed to the illness and develop immunity. For those who do not gain fill immunity, they can get shingles later in life, which is extraordinarily painful. </p>
<p>I am all for vaccines. Except for the third dose of the HPV, my kids have received every recommended one, and the flu shots each year.</p>
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<p>Adults who did not have chicken pox as a child are eligible for the vaccine. In fact many such adults have gotten the vaccine because they know that getting chicken pox in adulthood can result in very VERY serious illness. That is why I asked if you had had the vaccine.</p>
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<p>I would be willing to bet that no vaccines are 100%. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have been intimately acquainted with shingles as a result of having had chicken pox as a kid. Your comment about your daughter being exposed to chicken pox so that she could gain immunity and thus not be at risk for shingles doesn’t make sense. It is exactly those people who have had chicken pox who are at risk for shingles later. I wish I had even known that the shingles vaccine was available to people under 60 as I would have been willing to pay out of pocket for it.</p>
<p>It’s a fact that people who have had chicken pox are at risk for shingles later. People who have never had chicken pox are not at risk for getting shingles (though someone with shingles can cause a person who has no immunity to chicken pox to get chicken pox). What I don’t know has been established is this:</p>
<p>Are people who have had the chicken pox vaccine but not the disease at risk for shingles later? I think that is in question.</p>
<p>Haven’t read the whole thread, but fully believe all children should be vaccinated…Just had a conversation with a friend whose son recently entered medical school. Before he could start med school, he had to repeat several of the vaccinations (or get a booster) because his blood tests (titers) showed he didn’t have adequate immunity. Sounded scarey to me because he had had all the usual vaccines on schedule! Yet, they didn’t provide adequate immunity.</p>
<p>I had the shingles vaccine with a prescription at age 54–I’m pretty sure it was free, or at most a modest co-pay. It sure wasn’t 200 bucks.</p>
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<p>It might not have been clear but my comment was directed specifically at the HPV vaccination. In this instance the possibly results of not vaccinating are certainly not devastating populations…and most certainly not doing so in the developed world. </p>
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<p>My kids have had the regular vaccination schedule with the exception of chickenpox (as I posted earlier) because I tried to make sure the had that disease in childhood. My attempts were successful.</p>
<p>The recommendations in relation to the meningitis vaccines seem to be changing. Some googling showed that a booster is indicated if original vaccine was given before a certain age. It took three calls to the Dr.s office to get a 2 out of 3 response which supported a booster. Kids got them.</p>
<p>And one more time. one can be in complete support of vaccinations and yet still choose not to blindly follow the newest and latest trend.</p>
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Nrdsb4, does the chicken pox vaccine have to be repeated multiple times over the years to prevent getting chicken pox in their adult years or is a one time vaccine all they need?</p>
<p>Does having chicken pox in childhood grant the same immunity (both in level and duration) as having the vaccine? And vise versa?</p>
<p>More on the topic of HPV false-negative test results:</p>
<p><a href=“Help Center - The Arizona Republic”>Help Center - The Arizona Republic;
<p>Wow… If your doctor or nurse suggests HPV testing in addition to pap, ask what sample collection system they are going to use. If they say BD Surepath, they will have to see the articles. Saving a buck or two does not pay off here.</p>
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<p>The NIH indicates that the chicken pox vaccine is effective for about 20 years. So you would need a booster every 20 years or so.</p>
<p>Here is the list of complications the CDC lists for chickenpox:</p>
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<p>There is a reason this vaccine was developed… not just to keep kids from having an itchy illness that kept them in bed for a few days, but to avoid the cases that developed these types of complications. Exposing your kids to chicken pox is like a game of Russian roulette. Sure, maybe your kid will come through it fine. But maybe they won’t…</p>
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<p>Years ago my SIL had her purse stolen. My niece was coming down with something so a local police officer was kind enough to come to the house to take the report. It turns out that the niece had chicken pox and the police officer did not have immunity. He was reportedly hospitalized briefly and out of work for three weeks.</p>
<p>My oldest daughter was in a high risk follow up study at the UW, which entailed extensive intelligence testing. She threw up while we were in the parking garage, but because she often expressed anxiety that way, we attributed it to nerves.
She said she was fine, so we continued to the all day appt.
She apparently scored well on the test ( in the .03%) but the next day she broke out with chicken pox!
( this was long before the vaccine & indeed it took at least three exposures to chicken pox before she caught it)</p>
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<p>No, I didn’t realize that. My bad!</p>
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<p>Wow, think how well she would have done if she hadn’t felt like crap! Smart kid.</p>
<p>It is interesting that since the chicken pox vaccine came out in early 90’s, that Shingles cases have actually nearly doubled. </p>
<p>[The</a> Link Between Chickenpox and Shingles](<a href=“The Link Between Chickenpox and Shingles”>The Link Between Chickenpox and Shingles)</p>
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<p>But if you read that, it looks like the uptick in shingles is in adults. The oldest kids who were first to get the cpox vaccine are just about twenty this year. So the real question is if the vaccinated are getting shingles. Data up to now has shown the vaccine to be protective against shingles, that is, people who got the vaccine were NOT getting shingles. Those kids are getting older now, though, so the data as they age as a cohort will be interesting. The more nuanced discussion in the above article is about adults now, ie, US, getting more shingles, supposedly. Most of us had “normal” (“wild type”) chickenpox as kids. Be careful how you read, as always, as evinced by the paragraph above. I wouldn’t blame any uptick on shingles on the vaccine.</p>