Went and got the flu & Hep A vaccine today. Not sore yet, but maybe tomorrow.
I don’t recall soreness from either HepA nor HepB vaccines. The flu shot this year didn’t ache as much as some years past either.
Mother goes to jail for 5 days for refusing a court order to give kid vaccines. Father has kid given vaccines. Mother is “devastated”.
Get your damn shots.
I can’t imagine the rage I’d feel if I grew up to get a preventable cancer knowing that my parents could have prevented it. I already feel some degree of anger at my mom for her second hand smoke that left me with asthma and ear infections- and neither of those rise anywhere near the level of devastation that these cancers cause.
Note that the San Diego hepatitis outbreak is hepatitis A. Vaccination for hepatitis A only became routine in 1994, so most adults in the US older than traditional college age have not had it unless they specifically got it for travel or similar purposes. Those who have not previously been vaccinated can choose to get it (appears to be in the $80-160 per dose range; two doses recommended; may be covered by insurance).
@ucbalumnus - yes - re the Hep vaccines now available, I asked my doctor specifically, “please give me both the one that lets me eat at Friendly’s and the one that lets me share needles with strangers.” 
(BTW I’m doing neither thing; that was a joke! OK, sometimes I eat at Friendly’s.)
Romani, I cannot believe I just read this (quoted, your words) in this thread that will never die.
" I can’t imagine how cold you have to be to watch your child die like that and still advocate that other parents do the same."
Please cite cases in which parents have 1) coldly watched their kids die for lack of a vaccine and then 2) demanded that others do the same.
Never happened.
I’ve never met anyone who demanded OTHER families do anything they did in reference to vaccines in 20+ years. .
The only ones making demands are those who demand others get everything available despite any risks to them, which you (nor I) would not be privy to, of course, as an outsider to that family.
Being a parent for decades and planted squarely in a highly educated cohort of peers (who research medical issues), I know a few parents who have declined various ones for specific health and allergy reasons, and others who do every single one that comes down the pike soon as it hits the market. That decision needs to stay squarely with the family in conjunction with their own doctor.
I texted my daughter yesterday and asked her to check with the campus health center to see if they are recommending another booster for the MMR. This would be in addition to the original series as a baby, then the first booster at around 10-11, and now another (she’s 20). After the Syracuse mumps outbreak, Syracuse, or the county or region, is recommending another booster, and they are on the CDC watch list. My friend’s daughter who goes to Syracuse was recommended for another round. She and my daughter are from the same orphanage in China so had the same initial shots.
My daughter responded ‘okay.’ This means she won’t do it.
I’ve stated several times I cannot get some vaccines. I know, and have stated, several times that there are extremely legitimate reasons to not be vaccinated. We rely on others because of that.
The autism bogeyman isn’t one of them.
Considering I will be on immune suppressants until I die (and hopefully not of measles), I don’t see myself every changing or even budging.
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0312/859093-measles/
https://www.thescientificparent.org/learning-the-hard-way-my-journey-from-antivaxx-to-science/
I’m sorry (but not really), I just literally do not have the mental or physical energy to fight anti-vaxxers. I’ll let UCB and others cite cases of anti vax kids dying.
I’ve learned that I can cite facts, studies, and point to dead bodies and anti vaxxers will continue to deny. I’ve already said on here I don’t have the energy and I really meant it. :)>-
That was a three-part statement, ucbalumnus. You addressed only one part.
She stated that parents 1) “coldly” watch their child die 2) for lack of a vaccine (a causation issue if there ever was one), AND 3) demand that others not be vaccinated (as if there is any authority to do so for other families).
That three part scenario simply does not occur, though one or other singular factors have occurred for some people, as you address.
Your first citation: In Romania, poverty, the lack of access to health services, and the percentage of parents who refuse to vaccinate their children are at the heart of the recent epidemic.
So, three factors in play here in Romania, not one. 1) Poverty, 2) lack of access to services, 3) and refusal of some.
And your second citation is anecdotal. We all have heard from parents on all sides. I saw a chilling news story on ABC years ago about a roomful girls who agreed to be interviewed after becoming wheelchair-bound after Gardasil.
This is a family decision in conjunction with one’s doctor. That’s all I’m saying in contravention to the unsupportable statement above.
Many families make the decision to not vaccinate in direct conflict with their doctors. Let’s not pretend that everyone who refuses to vaccinate is in some kind of happy partnership with their physicians. Allergies or other contraindications are one thing. There is a whole movement of anti-vaxxers who are not using any kind of logic other than bunk science claims, and that is quite another thing altogether.
I wish it were only a “family decision in conjunction with one’s doctor”. Once you’re contagious and go out into the wider world in any capacity, it’s a public health issue.
I’m so grateful to scientists and the Gates (and numerous other field workers, etc) who have made this possible.
My swim teacher in high school was a wheelchair user because of polio in his youth. Amazing that it will be eradicated in his lifetime.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/24/bill-gates-humanity-will-see-its-last-case-of-polio-this-year.html
There was a clip on the NBC nightly news tonight that the CDC is recommending a third dose of mumps vaccine for college students and medical professionals who come in contact with the populations where it is showing up.
My father had polio. I will rejoice indeed when it has been totally eradicated.
She wasn’t saying that the parents coldly watched their kids die. She’s saying that some people still advocate against vaccines despite having watched their kids die and she’s expressing her opinion that it takes a cold person to do this. That’s not the same thing.