When people don't vaccinate their kids

Right, Hanna, that’s my understanding too.

Yes, it does make sense that they would screen advertising. I would expect that of other media as well.

Here are articles about how measles reduces your immunity against past infections:
https://www.wired.com/story/how-measles-hacks-the-body-and-harms-its-victims-for-years/
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/348/6235/694

Looks like someone who recovers from measles should get revaccinated for all vaccine-preventable diseases which s/he had either the disease or vaccine before the measles infection.

^^ not if they were already inoculated for those other diseases.

If they were vaccinated before getting measles (the real disease, not the vaccine), then the measles could cause them to lose the previous immunity. So getting revaccinated for the other diseases may be desirable.

“So getting revaccinated for the other diseases may be desirable.”

that is not the conclusion of the Science article.

“Our data provide an explanation for the long-term benefits of measles vaccination in preventing all-cause infectious disease. By preventing measles-associated immune memory loss, vaccination protects polymicrobial herd immunity.”

The perspective of a disability advocate who has Congenital Rubella Syndrome (German Measles).
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/19/opinions/measles-outbreak-anti-vaccine-movement-disability-sjunneson-henry/index.html

Although this seems logical and fair, I wonder whether it could lead to sick children not getting medical care because their families can’t afford it.

There was a small opinion piece in my local newspaper requesting the legislature to tighten up the very easy rules surrounding the granting of a religious exemption to our State’s vaccine rules. It was shocking how many anti-vaxxers posted in the comments section.

Most articles, even those on somewhat hot-button issues, receive a very small number of comments, if any. I was surprised at the numbers.

This is what I don’t understand, many anti vaxxers are convinced the vaccines cause autism, as if a life threatening illness or death is better than having an autistic child. Now having said that, if they truly believe that, why don’t they get the child vaccinated later? Autism typically shows up by the time a child is 3 , so why not get the shots later?

I do think babies get a lot of shots and I would ask my pediatrician for a slower schedule, but I cannot fathom skipping them.

A bill has been introduced in Maine to get rid of exemptions for vaccinations. :slight_smile: We have one of the highest rates of non-compliance, so I sure hope it passes.

I had a friend who adopted a baby (about a year old) from China and wanted a slower schedule and vaccinations that weren’t combined. I told her her baby would be getting a shot almost every day to break them into 4-5 individual vaccines and catch up. She was firm, that was what she wanted. It lasted exactly one shot and she realized that yes, she’d be taking the child to the nurse almost every day for some shot, blood draw, or treatment, and that the doctors didn’t HAVE the vaccines in separate doses so would have to order them that way.

I do not understand the “spreading out” shots. Yeah, babies get a lot of shots. So? They won’t remember it. Babies are exposed to millions of things every day, another shot isn’t going to do much. All of my niblings reacted to their vaccines more or less the same if they got one shot or 5.

I have been going with my SIL to get my niece’s shots. She originally wanted to do the drawn out vaccine schedule but when she realized she’d be coming to the doctor’s office at least once a week, that idea went out the window.

The drawn out vaccine schedule is incredibly problematic because it makes vaccines out to be more dangerous than they are. Plus, it reduces the chances that a child will get fully vaccinated since it’s frankly just difficult to get to the doctor that often. Not to mention that many insurances charge for each visit even if it’s just for a vaccine.

So you’re going to punish the child because the parents are idiots?

Sometimes I fantasize about gathering all of the unvaccinated families in each region together in big groups at a lovely summer camp and sending in a few carriers of measles, chicken pox, and mumps to wander about. Then they could be quarantined after they started getting sick. Would solve that problem fast and make everyone else safer. >:)

Okay, obvious I’m not serious, but in reality it is what they are risking every day.

Some parents used to hold chickenpox or measles parties to get their young kids exposed.

Before there was a vaccine, I had my toddlers take a bubble bath with their cousin who had chickenpox. D got it soon after and gave it to S. Fortunately both had pretty mild cases.

@HImom Unfortunately when we got chickenpox back in the day, our parents did not know that you are never really cured from it, as I discovered to my sorrow a few years back…

Yup, our D sadly got shingles while still in middle school and was very miserable. She’s too young for the shingles shot even now, over a decade later.

The shots that they fear in terms of autism are mainly the ones for measles, mumps, and rubella, and many people don’t perceive those diseases as life-threatening. I grew up when people still caught measles (the disease), and it wasn’t thought of that way – although in fact pretty much everyone knew of someone who had had a serious complication from it.