<p>@emerald It’s a good thing I said generally, eh?</p>
<p>I’m sure there’s more reasoning behind why the shingles vaccine isn’t used for chicken pox, as intparent has showed.</p>
<p>I’m surprised at how well this thread has gone. I’ve never read through a thread concerning vaccines that didn’t turn ugly quickly. I’m genuinely curious as to what antivaxers feel is the solution to public safety if they feel no one should vaccinate?</p>
<p>TVenee, I suspect most don’t think NO ONE should vaccinate. Their preference is for everyone else to vaccinate so they are not at risk of being exposed, nor do they have to go through vaccinations themselves.</p>
<p>Who is to say they even consider public safety their responsibility?</p>
<p>An interesting article about this, and worth a read – don’t be put off by the title:
[Vaccine</a> deniers: inside the dumb, dangerous new fad | The Verge](<a href=“http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/21/4767530/vaccine-deniers-inside-the-dumb-dangerous-new-fad]Vaccine”>http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/21/4767530/vaccine-deniers-inside-the-dumb-dangerous-new-fad)</p>
<p>Its hardly new, not any newer than requiring 22-25 shots before or by the first birthday.
Our district allowed students to opt out with a personal exemption as did my daughters private college.</p>
<p>Given the rising tide of vaccine refusal, it is even more important for your own health to be vaccinated, since the more vaccine refusers there are, the more chances for them to carry a disease to infect you.</p>
<p>I admit I don’t think about vaccination too much, I am more concerned about superbugs.
[FRONTLINE</a> asks: Has the age of antibiotics come to an end? | PBS NewsHour](<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/10/frontline-asks-has-the-age-of-antibiotics-come-to-an-end.html]FRONTLINE”>http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2013/10/frontline-asks-has-the-age-of-antibiotics-come-to-an-end.html)</p>
<p>So does anyones insurance cover health care( including vaccinations) that your kids receive at their school?
To my surprise our Blue Shield policy does not.
:p</p>
<p>Do you mean at their student health center? If, yes, then, probably not (or probably didn’t in our case since we no longer have kids in school) because it would be considered out-of-network. We also have BCBS PPO, so if they found a practitioner in their area who was part of the PPO, then it would be covered if part of the recommended vaccinations.</p>
<p>The policy #2D is on (BCBS of IL PPO) has an out of area exception. We end up with a deductible, but it will cover while at school. Her older sister used the benefit when she was in OR for college. Funnily enough, the benefit info says little to nothing about this; H had to call to get things set up. Vaccinations are covered w/o a copay, so she’ll get one here when she’s home for the long weekend.</p>
<p>Under our policy, some vaccines are free at Rite Aid so our daughters were able to get their flu shots while at school. Also, one D has a student health service that is very basic but all it’s services are covered by tuition. Extra services are in or out of network depending on who you choose to go to, just like anywhere else.</p>
<p>My U’s insurance policy covers immunizations 100%.</p>
<p>This vaccine ( gardisil) is covered by ins, if we use one of their providers, 0 if not.
Which I didn’t know since they’d covered similar things before.
Expensive vaccine.
Too bad her main dr is a naturopath who isn’t covered, but Ill remind her if she needs additional to wait till she’s at home. ( if you have a bedroom for them does it count as home even though she hasn’t stayed here summers since high school?)</p>
<p>Yeah, well, treatment for cervical cancer is even more expensive than the vaccine, so there you have it.</p>
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<p>This scares me. Are naturopaths really qualified to serve as primary care providers? </p>
<p>I’m not saying that naturopaths may not have something valuable to contribute to health care. I’m just nervous about them being the entry point into the health care system. Do they really have enough knowledge to recognize and treat serious problems?</p>
<p>My D’s univ (Loyola MD) had an outbreak of mumps last year. Some kid brought it back from Thanksgiving or Christmas and started it off. Then someone incubating it went to visit a college in VA for the weekend and started an outbreak there. </p>
<p>Eventually the school, on recommendation of the CDC, held free mumps vaccine clinics and begged everyone to come & get the shot. </p>
<p>Funny thing is, every one of the kids who got sick had been vaccinated at least twice for mumps. It wears off. </p>
<p>In future I suspect all colleges will require recent MMRs prior to entrance. A college student with mumps is a very unhappy person—and it often makes males sterile.</p>
<p>I have been doing my family’s genealogy for a few years now, and it means I look at copies of causes of death in the NYC archives, listed day by day for the entire city. </p>
<p>You would be stunned at the numbers of deaths of babies from whooping cough. Look at the home address, it happened in every neighborhood. Real bad on the Lower East Side, plenty bad in the nicer places. Also from “Brain fever”–meningitis? </p>
<p>Many many deaths from TB. Many deaths from measles, again among rich & poor.</p>
<p>I also read history—in the correspondence of Thomas Jefferson, he is very concerned about measles in the region of Monticello and he directs the first person to contract it – a slave child — be separated from everyone else and sent to stay in a distant cabin (with a caregiver who has already survived measles, another slave) until well. Unfortunately this did not work – as of course whoever had infected this child had been around others on the site — and both slave & free went through every parent’s terror—nursing sick children and losing some of them. Measles is no joke.</p>
<p>JRZMom, did those college kids who got the MMR vaccine long ago get less severe cases of mumps? I really thought my kids were as protected as possible as long as we were following the CDC recommendations. It never occurred to me that we should all look into additional booster shots when the CDC doesn’t recommend them. Yikes!</p>
<p>Some of them had mild cases & some of them had full blown mumps. Plenty of facebook remarking about chipmunk faces, and the sick kids said their glands hurt a lot (I had full blown mumps as an 11 yr old, in prevaccine years, and let me tell you, it hurts). No rhyme or reason apparent & they had all been vaccinated according to the usual schedule. Loyola is a Catholic school that does not seem to attract a lot of wild eyed anti-vaccine types. </p>
<p>I think the CDC will be changing their minds about mumps vaccine & recommend a redo shortly before college. If I had more kids in the pipeline, I would do it even without the recommendation.</p>