When people don't vaccinate their kids

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<p>Agreed. But even more potently, many of them vaguely believe in the Vaccine Conspiracy. You see, embedded in every required vaccine is a miniscule tracking device which enables The Gov’mint to know where we are at all times. The Gov’mint is also able to monitor such things as heart rate, the speed we are moving, and possibly even what we are saying. Because this technology didn’t exist when today’s adults were children, The Gov’mint had to come up with a way to persuade adults to get vaccinated. Enter the annual flu shot, now urged on every adult.</p>

<p>But it doesn’t stop there. The Gov’mint is also experimenting with various biological and chemical warfare agents which are injected into us. And we are being used in mind-control experiments. The Gov’mint may actually be trying to de-populate the world.</p>

<p>I can’t post links to this cr*p, but google “vaccine conspiracy.”</p>

<p>I have met people who believe in conspiracies. They usually define themselves as libertarians. Ive never thought to ask their views on vaccinations though. I usually just back away slowly asap.
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<p>LOL that’s wise, ek. Facts, logic and even simple common sense are wasted on them anyway.</p>

<p>The Gates foundation - didn’t that start during the government’s anti-trust trial against Microsoft? I remember Bill Gates being grilled on the stand and then going on some talk show and promising to “vaccinate the poor children of the world”. The beauty of such altruism…</p>

<p>I selectively vaccinated too. The chicken pox vaccine first came out and had a very uninspiring success rate. It seemed far safer for an otherwise healthy child to get the disease. H however got the vaccine since it would have been dangerous for him. </p>

<p>And Hep B? The protocol changed for that between kids 1,2, and 3. Suddenly for kid 3 we’re supposed to vaccinate her, at just one day old for a disease she is unlikely to get? My pediatrician told us that it was a government policy designed to vaccinate a “captive population” (newborns in hospitals) because a small percentage of them may have mothers who abuse IV drugs and also breastfeed their babies. Those poor little babies were the only ones at risk and since they often don’t make it to their next baby check up they were vaccinated at birth. Everyone was. We eventually got our kids vaccinated for Hep B in middle school.</p>

<p>My youngest is vaccinated for everything, even yellow fever & Japanese encephalitis. But that wasnt till after she was older.
What I have been trying to find out for years though, is how I got Hep B antibodies.
No one else in the family has it, and you would think if I had been ill, I would have noticed.
Had to have happened in the five yr period after I gave birth to my youngest & when I donated blood after I weaned her.
Its borne by body fluids, and since neither I nor my kids were sharing needles or having sex with anyone who was infected, it is a puzzlement.</p>

<p>^^ it is transferred the same way that HIV is, but it is far more contagious. Maybe that helps your puzzle? You might have inadvertently “shared” just a few droplets that contained Hep B, enough to give you antibodies but not enough to get you sick. Who knows?</p>

<p>Thats what Ive concluded.
It kinda horrifying to think that you could pick up Hep B from a doorknob.
Dissapointing I cant donate blood anymore though as their tests screen me out.</p>

<p>Id also like to know when they are going to remove mercury from vaccines.
I couldn’t wear contacts for years, because thimerosal was used as a preservative in virtually all contact solutions at one time, but they took it out, maybe 20 years ago?
But they still add it to vaccines they give babies.</p>

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<p>There are a lot of people who have chronic undiagnosed hepatitis B infection, including many who do not abuse injected drugs. Vaccinating newborns is intended to reduce the risk of transmission if the mother is infected. If not given then, it is given later anyway, before the child can become sexually active.</p>

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<p>Hepatitis B infection does not always produce symptoms. The symptoms may also just be non-specific sickness symptoms.</p>

<p>About 30% of adult hepatitis B infections are not associated with known risk factors.</p>

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<p>[CDC</a> - Seasonal Influenza (Flu) - Questions & Answers - Thimerosal and 2013-2014 Seasonal Flu Vaccines](<a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm]CDC”>http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/thimerosal.htm)</p>

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<p>Why not test the mother then during the vast array of blood testing she receives anyway while pregnant? If that’s not good enough, the government must think she’s likely to pick up the disease after her baby is born.</p>

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<p>Oh great. I wish I had known that before I had gotten my flu shot. How can we know whether our flu vaccine was from a single use vial or a multi-dose vial?</p>

<p>P.S. that quote is from the CDC link above and is only about flu vaccines.</p>

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<p>You are assuming all women are getting good prenatal care and seeing their doctor regularly during that time. Not necessarily true…</p>

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<p>Why? You didn’t have a reaction to the vaccine, right? This sounds pretty irrational to worry about after the fact… it just means you are NOT someone who is allergic to it (as hardly anyone is). You can ask at your clinic if you want to know, I am sure they could tell you. All this hoopla about preservatives in vaccines is a little disingenuous – would you rather that fungi, etc. were allowed to grow unchecked in them (like these steroid injections – not vaccines, but an injectable medication)? A lot of people in my state became seriously ill because of this. </p>

<p>[CDC</a> - HAI - Multistate Meningitis Outbreak](<a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/hai/outbreaks/meningitis.html]CDC”>Multistate Outbreak of Fungal Meningitis and Other Infections | HAI | CDC)</p>

<p>For more info
[Vaccines:</a> Vac-Gen/Additives in Vaccines Fact Sheet](<a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm]Vaccines:”>What's in Vaccines? Ingredients and Vaccine Safety | CDC)</p>

<p>[12th</a> Report on Carcinogens (RoC) - National Toxicology Program](<a href=“Home - National Toxicology Program”>Home - National Toxicology Program)</p>

<p>[Vaccines:</a> Vac-Gen/Side Effects](<a href=“http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/side-effects.htm]Vaccines:”>Possible Side effects from Vaccines | CDC)</p>

<p>intparent - there is no good reason for mercury to be in my body. You don’t have an “allergic” reaction to mercury, it’s a toxic heavy metal. The Romans considered lead a preservative and lined their aqueducts with it, and also used it for cooking vessels. Does that make it good for you?</p>

<p>It seems to me that each dose should be separate if it can be then thimersol free. It sounds more expensive but I would be willing to pay for my health. That’s the point of voluntarily vaccinating yourself anyway.</p>

<p>I cenrtainly would pay extra to have single dose vaccines for my children. But apparently the multidose bottles save on shelf space.( but increase risk of contamination)
[Single</a> versus Multi-Dose Vaccine Vials: An Economic Computational Model](<a href=“http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2919154/]Single”>Single versus Multi-Dose Vaccine Vials: An Economic Computational Model - PMC)</p>

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<p>Same here. I had whooping cough last summer. It was awful.</p>

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<p>You can ask the person giving the vaccine. Or you can see him/her pull out a pre-filled syringe, versus pull out an empty syringe and fill it from a multi-dose vial.</p>

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<p>Tests may produce false negatives. Also, with about a third of hepatitis B infections not being associated with known risk factors, the possibility of the mother being infected later does exist even if the mother does not otherwise have such risk factors.</p>

<p>In addition, hepatitis B infection as an infant is much more likely to result in a lifelong chronic infection than infection as an older child or adult. This is a major means of infection in some parts of Asia and among immigrants from there (baby girl infected as an infant, grows up and becomes a mother, infecting her children…).</p>

<p>I got the vaccine as a child, but let me tell you, as others have, GET A BOOSTER!! I was miserable for six months, coughing and throwing up from the coughing. really couldn’t go anywhere, not that I felt like it anyway. </p>

<p>Very healthy person, but it had me down and out for six months. really.</p>

<p>MISERABLE. GET A BOOSTER!!!</p>

<p>I could easily see why people die from that.</p>

<p>Had shingles too, in my twenties. Didn’t know much then but reading here, I will investigate the vaccine. Not as bad a whooping cough, but no fun.</p>