Where did your SAT 1950-2100 child get in?

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<p>There are numerous threads here asking and answering where the B students got in. There is one fo 3.0- 3.3 GPA and one for 3.3-3.6 GPA. Many of these CC kids also have SAT's over a 2100. This is a game changer for many. </p>

<p>I am asking all you parents (or recent HS graduates) where did the kids who had a 1950 - 2100 total SAT (or a 1350-1450 CR/M SAT), NO HIGHER, get into college in the past two or three years. What schools did they apply to and what were their admissions results. Please let us know if they were an athlete or applied ED or had any special hooks, or if they got in later off a waitlist. </p>

<p>There are many of us on CC who have kids (many of whom have unweighted GPA's in the 3.6 to 3.9 range and take very rigorous HS schedules) who don't test in the HYPES SAT ranges (2100-2400) and it would be helpful to know how these kids do in the actual admissions process.</p>

<p>Our college counselor has told my son that unless he retakes his SAT and gets about a 1500 CR/M, he will not get into most of the schools on his list (which currently includes Columbia, UPenn, Vanderbilt, CMU, Emory, WashU, Rice and Georgia Tech). My son is a public school student who is caucasion, lives in a high acheiving district and has no hooks or stand out abilities. </p>

<p>This is not a chance thread. Our HS does not have naviance nor will it release any information to us about how prior years students have done in the admission's process (citing privacy issues). All that we know is from word of mouth (ie. so and so got into this college).</p>

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<p>*Our college counselor has told my son that **unless he retakes his SAT and gets about a 1500 CR/M, **he will not get into most of the schools on his list (which currently includes Columbia, UPenn, Vanderbilt, CMU, Emory, WashU, Rice and Georgia Tech). My son is a public school student who is caucasion, lives in a high acheiving district and has no hooks or stand out abilities. *</p>

<p>Well, it’s true that a 1950-2100 SAT student would have a harder time for acceptance to those schools. A 2100 would give a better chance if the M+CR is 1420+ </p>

<p>That said, your son can go ahead and apply to a few “just to see,” but to have more “likely” admissions, he needs to go down the rankings a bit to #50 and below.</p>

<p>Does your child have an engineering interest? </p>

<p>What state are you in?</p>

<p>Your child’s stats (if between 1950-2050) is in that gray area where it can be hard to get accepted to the “full need” schools. </p>

<p>And, the stats may not be high enough for the big merit that might be needed at schools that give merit, but don’t meet need.</p>

<p>What is your child’s situation?</p>

<p>Engineering Major?</p>

<p>Home state?</p>

<p>What is the breakdown of your son’s SAT (what is his M+CR)?</p>

<p>What does he like about those schools?</p>

<p>How much will you spend per year?</p>

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<p>My son got into Emory and WashU with a 1470 CR/M score, but his sport helped, I think. He was waitlisted at Rice.</p>

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<p>^^maine: with due respect, I think geography helped him as well w Emory and Washu…</p>

<p>I agree with seiclan’s college counselor with one caveat: her son won’t be outright rejected at a number of those schools but rather waitlisted…due primarily to demographics (it happens around here as well…)</p>

<p>seiclan: I am thinkin the level of Lehigh, Bucknell would work…? A bunch of kids around here ended up at Penn State Engineering and business (didn’t get in to UMich), Tulane and Miami (didn’t get in to Vandy), Northeastern, Syracuse (specialized competitive programs), UWisconsin…see, all over the board…</p>

<p>The sad fact remains that for those kids whose demographics work against them, early decision is a way around it…at least in that pool, the demographics are not as pertinent in the decision making process for admissions…</p>

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<p>Although I did not start this thread as a chance thread for my son, just as a way to see what other schools should be on his radar (since other kids with his stats got in or didn’t), here are his stats:</p>

<p>Our home state is Florida.
He is planning to do premed as a Biology or some other science major but may think about biomedical engineering as well.
He loves science and has taken most of the science classes offered at our HS.
He will graduated having taken 13 AP classes and the rest honors (except for the required PE and music).
His SAT is currently 1430/1600, 2070/2400
His GPA is 3.85 UW, 5.1 W
Money is not a consideration. We will spend whatever he needs at the right school for him. We will not be filing FAFSA or requesting any FA. Merit money is always nice.</p>

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<p>Because this sounded so gloomy, I checked three of these colleges using our high school’s Naviance and looked only at the kids applying who had SAT scores under 1400, just to see what it looked like The students mostly had pretty good grades. Ours is also a high achieving school district.</p>

<p>16 applied to Vanderbilt with SAT’s under 1400. 2 of these were early admisison. 1 of the 2 EA’s was admitted, along with 1 more, so 2 admitted total.</p>

<p>14 applied to Rice with SAT’s under 1400. 3 admitted.</p>

<p>16 kids applied to Carnegie Mellon with SATs under 1400. 5 admitted.</p>

<p>Of course, I don’t know what the students’ hooks may have been, but this shows that for Vandy, Rice, and CM, it is unlikely but possible to be admitted without tip top test scores. Many with lower test scores were waitlisted, and none of these got in off the waitlist.</p>

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<p>Also a sport helping (the same one as MaineLonghorn’s son) but admitted to Penn (ED), Indiana, Georgia and UChicago (EA) with verbal likelies from Davidson, Emory, Colgate, NYU,Tufts, Williams. He accepted the Penn ED.</p>

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<p>Thank you Midwestmom - that is helpful (though gloomy, yes).
Rodney - He isn’t into liberal arts schools, especially small ones. He goes to a HS with 3200 kids in the school (he has about 750 in his senior class) and he wants bigger than his high school, a definite campus, near a major airport, and no big hills (seriously, he didn’t like Tufts cause of the hills so Lehigh is out).</p>

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<p>Has he picked out a safety school he is excited about? If not, work on that first. That really does help in separating the needs and wants.</p>

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<p>looks like Tulane fits the bill for the match/safety along with UMiami…or are those out because they are too close to home?</p>

<p>I guess some ideas in between the two ranges are in order…</p>

<p>Along the selectivity lines of Lehigh but larger near an airport…</p>

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<p>The safety is the one that is important. Focus FIRST on finding a safety that he loves and can do well at it, that he is pretty certain to get in, and that you can afford. Once you’ve done that, the rest doesn’t matter a whole lot. He can focus on raising his SAT scores if he wants, and apply to as few or as many as he likes. But the safety is the one that really counts.</p>

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<p>I checked our school’s naviance and it seems like Washu has accepted 2 kids in the sub 2100 range out of 5 applied, 3 was accepted, one was waitlisted. A few got into Cornell sub 2100 range and U of Michigan.</p>

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<p>So what? There are dozens of schools that would love to have your son and where he could get an outstanding education. Focus on finding some of those and helping your son fall in love with them.</p>

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<p>My D got in ED at Cornell (College of Human Ecology) with a 1350 (710 CR / 640 M) and a 31 ACT</p>

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<p>^^^csdad: yes, ED will change the picture at all the schools on the list; I get the feeling ED is not the direction the OP’s son wants to go…</p>

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<p>My son has two safeties, UCF Honors and U Miami. He would be very happy to attend U Miami (it is high on his list actually). We will go visit Miami when Fall semester is in session so he can get a good feel for it. UCF Honors is also financial safety for us (just in case the worst ever happened). He is not thrilled about UCF Honors…yet. I am going to take him for a tour of the Burnett Honors college at UCF this summer and I am quite sure that he will see the school in a different light after seeing what they have to offer him (priority registration, advising and a great honors dorm).
He is resistant to applying to Tulane for whatever reason (I have no clue why), I think it looks great. </p>

<p>Incidentally, my son’s 1430 sat is a 800 math/630 reading.</p>

<p>Any other reports of where last years kids got in???</p>

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<p>That seems to be the purpose of this thread-- finding those schools. I’d like to hear answers as well-- for liberal arts.</p>

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<p>Thank you Gwen - that is exactly what the purpose of this thread is. Hopefully more will post soon.</p>

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<p>Yes, Gwen, this is great! My DS is in the same boat, though he is looking for these small LACs while I am encouraging him to explore the meets 100% need schools.</p>

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<p>^^ok, I need to qualify my answer…</p>

<p>I think CMU is a match with the 800 math score and the 3.85 UW GPA…that’s the only one where my opinion differs from college counselor; I am basing my answer on Naviance results…</p>