<p>anyone got duke info? These data tables are harder to find than I thought...</p>
<p>^^^^^This what I could find on Duke University at first glance:</p>
<p>Career</a> Center :: Employer Home :: Recruit at Duke :: 2005</p>
<p>Career</a> Center :: Employer Home :: Recruit at Duke :: 2006</p>
<p>Career</a> Center :: Employer Home :: Recruit at Duke :: 2007</p>
<p>I'll see if my school has anything else.</p>
<p>^^^ Abercrombie & Fitch??</p>
<p>^^^Yeah I don't quite get that...maybe some management program <em>shrug</em></p>
<p>Anything for UCLA?</p>
<p>interesting, i didn't expect the average salary for philosophy at Princeton to be so high!</p>
<p>Who pays 200k for a degree in philosophy?</p>
<p>anything for Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute particularly management? I'm doing management/law that is a combo program with law school. So I guess I should be looking at law schools as well for information such as this.</p>
<p>i agree with alexandre. lot of you guys are in for a pretty big surprise when you get to your first job and realize you'll be making 15 an hour. i'll still maintain trade school is the best way to go these days. learning a trade; truck driving, engine repair, carpentry, you assure yourself you have the skills to land pretty well paying jobs. an undergraduate degree with no experience doesn't really give you much.</p>
<p>I highly doubt the overachievers of CC are interested in blue collar work</p>
<p>thats a character defect. you see more and more men dissapearing though from 4 years to trade schools.</p>
<p>Wow. You really hijacked my thread.</p>
<p>Back on track, now...</p>
<p>Any more, guys?</p>
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<p>^^^Yeah I don't quite get that...maybe some management program <em>shrug</em>
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<p>Well, for some of them, yes, for others, not. Some of them might have just ended up as shelf clerks or cashiers. Who knows?</p>
<p>Ridiculous, you say? Well, let me put it to you this way. There are Berkeley English grads who end up as baristas at Starbucks. Or as head cashier at Barnes & Nobles (hey, at least it was head cashier, right?). Or as waiters at the local Irish bar. Or as a clerk at the YMCA.</p>
<p>Career</a> Center - What Can I Do With a Major In...?
Career</a> Center - What Can I Do With a Major In...?
Career</a> Center - What Can I Do With a Major In...?</p>
<p>Look, the point is, not everybody who graduates from a top school will get a good job. Some will end up with quite mediocre jobs.</p>
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<p>Yeah, well, I highly doubt that they would want to be baristas at Starbucks either, but that evidently happens to some Berkeley grads. This isn't some scrub school here - this is Berkeley. I suspect that if I was that person, I would rather have learned a trade instead.</p>
<p>I find that hard to believe, because you can easily find a job teaching if you're a berkeley grad. It's not bad considering you have summers off and your pay is essentially for 9 months of work.</p>
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<p>I found it hard to believe also. But what can I say? Look at the data, because the data doesn't lie. For whatever reason, some Berkeley grads end up as Starbucks baristas or B&N head cashiers.</p>
<p>Besides, think of it this way. To teach at a public school in California requires that you have a teaching certificate, which earning a Berkeley undergrad degree, by itself, does not provide. Hence, the only place you would be able to legally teach would be at a private school, of which are either not easy to get hired (for the good private schools), or don't pay very well (for the mediocre private schools).</p>
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<p>Eh, for it to be represented in the top 15 of employers, it would most certainly be that the students recruited by A&F are joining the management program -- not just "some into management," "some becoming cashiers." Rather, the vast majority joining the former, with a few becoming clerks.</p>
<p>Moreover, after talking to seniors, it is: A&F Management Program. Thats where the students are headed; in fact, it has a booth at the Career Fairs, overshadowed by all the banks and consulting firms present.</p>
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Eh, for it to be represented in the top 15 of employers, it would most certainly be that the students recruited by A&F are joining the management program -- not just "some into management," "some becoming cashiers." Rather, the vast majority joining the former, with a few becoming clerks.
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<p>Eh, that seems to be a distinction without a difference. At the end of the day, it's still a matter of 'some going into management, some going into cashiers'.</p>
<p>The salient point is that some Duke grads (just like some Berkeley grads) surely end up with mediocre jobs. That's the reality.</p>
<p>Details on the A&F internship program (similar to the A&F full-time program, and very un-cashier like). I don't think anyone at Harvard ends up as an A&F cashier...
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A&F Corporate Internship Program-Merchandising</p>
<p>Merchants are experts in specific apparel categories (tees, denim, outerwear, etc.) and handle all business aspects of this product for the company. Entrepreneurial in nature, merchants lead a cross functional team (design, sourcing, visual) to maximize the financial success of their product line. Merchants choose the best designs, negotiate costs and production timelines with vendors, and strategize future business through the analysis of current sales information. Over the 9 week program, interns will learn the role of an Abercrombie merchant through on-the-job training, interactive classroom simulations, and market research projects. Interns will have access to all aspects of the merchandising function and will be expected to contribute to their teams.</p>
<p>A&F's Corporate Interns receive a monthly stipend. Candidates for the Corporate Internship Program in Merchandising need to be leaders in their schools and their communities. A strong analytical background as well as an eye and passion for clothing are essential to success within our corporate culture. Eligible candidates need to have maintained a minimum 3.0 GPA and currently be in their junior year. SAT/ACT scores and cumulative GPA must be included on resume. A cover letter is recommended.
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<p>Some of these career surveys (as I mentioned about Rice U) are taken right before graduation - before some kids have turned their attention to job-hunting, before they have figured out what they want to do next. Yes, many have already applied or been accepted to law/med/grad school, and yes, many have already headed into the fields like engineering/computer science; but a number of kids just want some time to relax and explore their options. And some of those options may very well be waitressing or working at a starbucks while figuring out which grad school to apply to. Also, starting jobs may be low-paid internship-type jobs.</p>