<p>GPA Unweighted only a 3.6, weighted 3.8
Junior year: BC Calc, AP Chem, APUSH, APLit, Academy of Finance
blue ribbon school
grade accelerated
two year advanced math
PSAT: 201
SAT: 800/M 680/Verbal 630/CR
9th in state - Math competition
cross country/math team/church mission work
Wants to study finance and economics
We want to keep the annual bill around 20K</p>
<p>Will you qualify for any need based aid? Or do you need merit to fill the gap?
How large of a school?
Location?
Class Rank?</p>
<p>What state does he live in?</p>
<p>SAT: 800/M 680/Verbal 630/CR</p>
<p>One of the above isn’t right…there isn’t a verbal and a CR. One must be a Writing. I’m guessing that the first two scores are the M+CR…is that right?</p>
<p>Since your son’s M+CR SAT is above 1400, he can qualify for some good merit scholarships (including free tuition) as some schools. </p>
<p>I see he wants to major in business/finance… What is his likely career? </p>
<p>What does he want in a school (besides a good B-school)?</p>
<p>big
small
quiet
rah rah big sports
honors college on campus?
greek systems as an option
Catholic schools ok?
single sex
co-ed 50/50 split
rural setting
big city setting
collegetown setting
nice dorms
recreation availability
warm weather
cold/snowy weather</p>
<p>Sorry…writing 680, CR 630…he emailed me. remembering numbers, not classifications.</p>
<p>small to mid sized
conservative
we live in the midwest (Indy)
he loves sports
not single sex
he’s very cute and girls like him but he’s that cute shy that girls like 
(I’m not proud)
will want to play rec sports and he loves sports
career - yet undecided…maybe finance/maybe politics/maybe accounting/maybe entrepreneurial.
Happy with anyone, doing anything in any situation.
Not a hipster…doesn’t smoke/drink/do drugs or hang with kids who do…although he is very tolerant of people who do.
Class rank is bottom of top 10% in a class of 800, but we are a very highly ranked public school district nationally. Unusually affluent town near Indy.</p>
<p>He wants a school with as big a rep as he can do.
We will not qualify for need based aid. Hubby a doc. I’m a professional.
We will not spend more than 25k a year. If he wants loans for the rest,
that is his decision, however. My husband and I are both successful products
of quality state schools and (although it will not be popular on this board for me
to say), think that an Ivy League education is highly overrated. Look at what
they are giving us in Washington and on Wall Street.</p>
<p>In state Indiana U. They have a well noted business school.</p>
<p>maybe try Denison…it’s more expensive than 25k(more like 44k) but It fits the bill for everything else your S wants…plus they do offer merit money</p>
<p>I would suggest Bama…but It’s kinda big</p>
<p>OK…</p>
<p>*small to mid sized
conservative
we live in the midwest (Indy)
he loves sports
not single sex
he’s very cute and girls like him but he’s that cute shy that girls like (I’m not proud)
will want to play rec sports and he loves sports
career - yet undecided…maybe finance/maybe politics/maybe accounting/maybe entrepreneurial.
Happy with anyone, doing anything in any situation.
Not a hipster…doesn’t smoke/drink/do drugs or hang with kids who do…although he is very tolerant of people who do.
Class rank is bottom of top 10% in a class of 800, but we are a very highly ranked public school district nationally. Unusually affluent town near Indy.</p>
<p>He wants a school with as big a rep as he can do.
We will not qualify for need based aid. Hubby a doc. I’m a professional.
We will **not spend more than 25k **a year. If he wants loans for the rest,
that is his decision, however. My husband and I are both successful products
of quality state schools and *</p>
<p>OK…this is do-able. Are schools with - say 24k undergrads ok? I can understand that mega schools like Penn St would be too big…LOL…they’re like cities!!! (no offense to you Nittany Lions out there! I <3 Joe Pa. )</p>
<p>As Rocket suggested above…Bama would be good. He’d get free tuition there for his stats - so his total costs would be about $15k per year - including the very nice Super Suites. It does have about 23k undergrads…but it’s laid out very well and it’s a beautiful campus. <a href=“Page Not Found | The University of Alabama”>Page Not Found | The University of Alabama; Plus, Bama has a really strong Business school. The Culverhouse College of Commerce and Business <a href=“http://www.cba.ua.edu/[/url]”>http://www.cba.ua.edu/</a></p>
<p>Again, with his M+CR scores (1400+), he can get big merit at some schools. Since you’re willing to pay $25k, that amount with strong merit will allow him to go to several schools! He won’t even need to take out any loans (nor should he if he doesn’t need to! )</p>
<p>I don’t know if your son understands how loans will affect his future life. For instance, if he were to borrow the “max Stafford” for undergrad, he’d borrow a total of $27k over 4 years (5500, 6500, 7500, 7500). His monthly payments would be about $300 a month (like an extra car payment for 10 LONG YEARS.) Any loans larger than that would require you to co-sign. I’m not a fan of ANY undergrad loans if there are good options to avoid them. LOL :)</p>
<p>But, if he insists on taking Stafford loans out and not seek merit money, then he needs to “do the math”. Below are the COA’s of publics and privates.</p>
<p>Again, a few will give him big merit and modest merit for his stats… Some won’t give any merit.</p>
<p>Cost of Attendance (COA) tuition, fees, room, board, books, misc…per year for OOS students, State Universities</p>
<p>$25,787, U MINNESOTA
$31,500, U ALABAMA
$31,872, VIRGINIA TECH
$33,750, AUBURN U
$34,812, U IOWA
$35,029, U WISCONSIN
$36,210, OHIO STATE
$35,311, U N CAROLINA
$40,086, U GEORGIA
$36,977, RUTGERS
$34,696, TEXAS A&M
$34,922, U DELAWARE
$36,094, U FLORIDA
$32,752, U PITTSBURGH
$37,416, U MARYLAND
$36,985, U WASHINGTON
$37,548, CLEMSON
$36,848, PURDUE
$39,146, U CONNECTICUT
$38,120, GEORGIA TECH
$40,130, U ILLINOIS
$39,510, PENN STATE
$37,644, INDIANA U
$38,566, MICHIGAN ST
$48,041, UC IRVINE
$49,193, UCLA
$50,306, UC BERKELEY
$38,974, WILLIAM & MARY
$43,742, U TEXAS
$49,926, UC S BARBARA
$46,699, UC SAN DIEGO
$48,049, UC DAVIS
$39,483, UC S CRUZ
$42,570, U VIRGINIA
$47,188, U MICHIGAN </p>
<p>Private National Universities Cost of Attendance per year
$16,120 LDS, BYU
$20,410 Non-LDS, BYU
$43,288, Rice
$47,934, Yeshiva
$49,968, Caltech
$50,100, Syracuse
$50,806, SMU
$50,620, Princeton
$55,312, U Miami
$50,436, Case Western
$55,160, Fordham
$50,550, Yale
$52,000, Harvard
$44,278, Worcester
$52,000, MIT
$48,750, Pepperdine
$52,623, Stanford
$52,394, Cornell
$52,132, Emory
$53,000, Boston University
$53,608, Northwestern
$51,300, Notre Dame
$55,368, Vanderbilt
$52,082, Wake Forest
$51,050, Lehigh
$52,973, Dartmouth
$51,140, U Rochester
$52,162, Brandeis
$53,793, NYU
$52,030, Brown
$55,866 Wash U
$53,095, U Penn
$53,390, Duke
$53,618, USC
$54,300, Boston College
$53,390, Johns Hopkins
$54,160, Rensselaer
$55,330, Georgetown
$54,047, U Chicago
$53,660, Carnegie Mellon
$55,125, George Washington
$53,200, Tufts
$52,996, Tulane
$53,644, Columbia</p>
<p>Miami of Ohio. Michigan State and U of M, University of Wisconsin, University of Iowa (to get it within your budget he’d have to get some merit dollars at any flagship out of state publics), Hope College in Michigan is more conservative than hipster, small and loves their sports teams as does Hillsdale also in Michigan, also small, also not hipster and he would get merit at all those schools. Maybe Valparaiso? Larger than Hope and Hillsdale, not sure about the sports support at Valpo. Purdue?</p>
<p>My thoughts in addition to some of the above: Xavier. Great business school.</p>
<p>Apply where he might get Merit $$</p>
<p>U of Iowa does give some merit. :)</p>
<p>I doubt merit would be available for this kid’s stats at schools like UMich. There are kids with ACT 35s and near perfect GPAs that didn’t get one dime from schools like UMich.</p>
<p>Here’s a thread that provides links to assured scholarships at various schools. It’s very helpful because the OP of this thread stated that he/she only wanted posts that included known assured merit scholarships and their links. </p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/848226-important-links-automatic-guaranteed-merit-scholarships.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/848226-important-links-automatic-guaranteed-merit-scholarships.html</a></p>
<p>Ooops, forgot to mention - Miami of OH has very good Business School.</p>
<p>We rulled out U of M completely because of cost of UG (D’s GPA=4.0uw, ranked #1). But she might apply there for Grad. school because of all that we save by not paying UG tuition.</p>
<p>True, true on UofM, but I included it because Michigan State looked so lonely in the list LOL. Also UofM can be more inexplicable in their decisions about everything sometime so it might be worth lobbing in an app.</p>
<p>Michigan is likely out…Ann Arbor is very liberal, it is VERY expensive and HUGE…not to mention it really does pull in some super high achievers…not sure he’d be competitive.
He would love bama football, but he was grade accelerated and kind of young…might be too far away.</p>
<p>More and More, Miami-Oxford is looking like “the” fit for him. Good B-School, 2 hours away, we can swing it with the 9k merit money for his stats. He really did love it. I get a little tired of the people who belittle it as a choice. Some of our high school’s best kids have gone there…kids who could have gone anywhere.</p>
<p>If he has to take a few loans, we can help him pay them back…but I think at Miami, he could pretty much graduate debt free. Love the MS in Accounting option there, and he might squeek into honors. </p>
<p>Appreciate the link to the automatic merit site.</p>
<p>Mom, you are always a great resource.</p>
<p>If he went to MSU, my boss would be thrilled :)</p>
<p>Have you considered DePauw? They offer generous merit aid and has a more conservative campus. Their new President has some big plans for the college. The only downside I would see is if your son wants to be further from home and at a bigger school.</p>
<p>DePauw is a great school. We should probably visit. He has been thinking he likes the 10-20k campus size, however. In his mind, a reasonable drive from home…far enough to live away…close enough to be home in an afternoon…feels about right.</p>
<p>The University of Dayton might be a nice fit. Good academics and business school, wholesome and conservative, very community service minded and an active intramural program. They are an opening round host for March Madness and have a very enthusiastic sports fan base. It might be worth a look and your S would qualify for some nice merit money.</p>
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