<p>Compared to the other schools in its tier (Ivies, Stanford, Duke, NWU, UChi, + others), where would you rank Cornell's CAS?</p>
<p>When I hear good things about Cornell from non-Cornellians its usually pertaining to either AEM, Hotel, Engineering, or Agriculture/Nutrition. So I'm just wondering, is the CAS a weak point of Cornell, or simply not talked about as much?</p>
<p>what do you care? you are in ILR.</p>
<p>I am so sick of everyone wanting to play the ranking game.</p>
<p>CAS is very strong; physics is considered to be in the top 5, nrc reports it as #3; english in top 10, with creative writing as #1; and math and chemistry are in the top 15. Who cares if roneald wants to play the ranking game? Nobody is forcing you to read and post on these threads–chill out.</p>
<p>I thought Cornell CAS was the hardest to get into…</p>
<p>i wonder if it’s because CAS students usuaslly go on to get graduate degrees elsewhere…</p>
<p>where as those other students go straight to work?</p>
<p>Too bad you haven’t been on here long enough to see the many, many, many, flame wars that have started when one ****** wants to play the ranking game.</p>
<p>It makes our school look bad, it doesn’t contribute to a better understanding of the school, and it turns people off and only alienates members.</p>
<p>interesting point ^</p>
<p>I would place it in Ithaca, New York.</p>
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<p>While I do know that Cornell is best known for its Hotel school (most people on this board will tell you otherwise, but they’re probably biased), I would rate CAS second best (but i’m biased too). I was always told Agriculture was the joke school of Cornell.</p>
<p>i think roneald asks this question b/c he was debating whether or not to transfer to CAS…</p>
<p>i will tell you that CAS students (govt/econ) are a bit diff than ILR kids…you’ll just have to see it to believe it…</p>
<p>No, because even if I just ignore a thread, that doesn’t change the impact it has made on the entire board and of Cornell’s perception.</p>
<p>The latest Cornell v. Penn flame war made many people lose respect for Cornell and Cornell alumni, and no one made a valid point as to why one school was better than the others. It only deludes more people into thinking in terms of absolute preferences, supports ill-reasoned feelings of superiority, and promotes worshiping the gods that are USNWR and Businessweek.</p>
<p>USNWR sucks and doesn’t represent Cornell accurately, because it depends on factors such as class size, and acceptance rate, both of which are larger at a larger than average (relatively speaking) top university. If people don’t realize this fact well then that’s their loss: they can maintain their absurd notion of superiority based on a narrow perspective of universities.</p>
<p>I don’t really understand why a lot of people have such a negative impression of CALS at Cornell, particularly when compared to the other colleges at Cornell. I don’t see the point in putting down any individual college at Cornell but why CALS? Isn’t it more competitive, in terms of admission, than the other statutory colleges and one or two of the endowed colleges?</p>
<p>I’m sorry to alienate anyone but ResugamBell hit this one on the spot; every other college I applied to except for Cornell and Wharton were LAC’s, only because Cornell and Wharton had programs that I felt really specifically hit what I wanted to go into.</p>
<p>However, after re-evaluating why I wanted to go to a LAC, I’m starting to again feel that strong desire to want to get this type of undergraduate education.</p>
<p>I honestly could care less about the “ranking” of the school. What I meant by my question was, I simply have not heard much at all about the CAS, as whenever a discussion about Cornell arises it is pertaining to one of the colleges I mentioned earliar. I wanted to know if the CAS had the same level of graduate school recognition, teaching quality, academic rigor, class size, etc. Obviously these things will NOT be the same unless being judged on a very, VERY broad scale, so I wanted to know what the pluses and minuses are for the school in the event that I don’t get as much course flexibility as I want in ILR and I decide to transfer.</p>
<p>If you would like to summarize those qualities as a “ranking”, go ahead, but I’m doing this for personal gain, not reputation. </p>
<p>To those of who have been helpful, thank you, your input is greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>To those of you who have been condescending/sarcastic, I’m sorry for insulting you, and I hope you take the time in the future to think before you bring a negative comment to a thread that has as its justification an earnest goal in learning more about the opportunities of a student’s school.</p>
<p>Then make your oh so noble intentions clear next time, instead of providing fodder to the flamers.</p>
<p>this is a tough decision man…and i sort of am in your shoes…i’ve always wondered what it would have been for me to go through a traditional liberal arts curriculum…although i’ve sort of done it through ILR…i’ve taken courses in business, history, government/IR, languages (french/spanish)…</p>
<p>CAS isnt always mentioned with cornell b/c CAS students are the least pre-professional IMO…many dont even know what their major is until junior or senior year…</p>
<p>they are very much liberal arts students…</p>
<p>i do like ILR b/c i’ve been able to have the most flexibility at cornell…and am now having to deal with whether i want to enter the world of business or not…since i’m entering senior year and have to decide QUICKLY!</p>
<p>CAS is good, it’s just not very… interesting. There’s nothing to distinguish it from a lot of other schools, unlike the other colleges. There’s no core program, or do-whatever-the-f you want shenanigans. </p>
<p>However, I would say that teaching quality varies pretty wildly. I’ve had some pretty awesome teachers, but there’s my advisor who told me he dreams about asking for a 100k pay cut so that the college will leave him alone to do his research.</p>
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<p>Cornell’s definitely not best known for its Hotel school, even though its Hotel school is the best known of its kind in the world. Perhaps Engineering? To be honest, the Hotel school takes a lot of flack from other students because of the perceived shallowness (“It puts the pretty people in Cornell”) and seemingly light-weight subject matter. I’m not saying I agree with this assessment.</p>
<p>When people put down the Ag school they tend to forget the “and Life Sciences” portion and, in general, it’s perceived as lower because it breaks from the Ivy League model by focusing on practical skills. Any school that does that in the culture of elitism that afflicts this subset of society is going to be snubbed by those who are there to prepare to write for the New Yorker or work on Wall Street. They perceive it as beneath them, even though they’re doing some really groundbreaking work redefining how we use and interact with the natural world in which we live. </p>
<p>I would liken it to the Yale School of Forestry and Environmental Studies. Best of its kind in the world, yet I think a lot of Yalies are uncomfortable with a forestry school “infecting” their institution. </p>
<p>I agree that CAS isn’t talked about because it’s just not unique. It’s the part of Cornell that looks and acts like all the other Ivies. It’s very highly regarded, though.</p>
<p>They called the CAS the “Arts” college back in my day.</p>
<p>I went there for two years, then transferred to Stanford my junior year, at the behest of my college girlfriend. </p>
<p>Transferring was the right call for me for personal reasons, but I’ve always felt that Cornell was Stanford’s equal in terms of educational quality. And I’m much more nostalgic about my time at Cornell.</p>