Which Art School?

@JBStillFlying Thanks for the list. The list kinda surprised me. UNT and UT Austin are in our neighborhood and I am seeing quite a high ranking for it, while when we searched otherwise they came to some 59th. The kid got accepted in UNT too (havent heard from UT) but she is refusing to even think of anything in Texas :frowning: I hope her NY dream materializes. UNT opened their new facility this year but there is nothing that can convince her. not RIT there in the list :confused: while GD comes up pretty high in several other searches for RIT.

@merc81 D is actually more open to MWP for the first two years than Pratt. Not sure if she will get accepted in either. the waiting game now. Applications are submitted. She feels (and we feel the same) that MWP, if she gets accepted will be better for a transition too. We live in a small town here!

Munson followed by Pratt might also offer your daughter an overall diversity of experience greater than she’d find at Pratt alone. Wishing her the best of luck with all of her applications!

@merc81 Thank you very much. She is really tensed and I have a feeling she will be heartbroken if she doesnt get in she really liked the vibe when she chatted with the lady at NPD and so did we.

I know your D isn’t open to TX but don’t go into major debt for marginally better schools. Not having debt will be the biggest gift at the end of a VERY SHORT four years.

Since your daughter seems well matched for her choices her chances of admission may be quite good. On this basis, I hope she can relax and enjoy her current school year, @SomaRathore.

SomaRathore- just an update about our D experience at VCUARTS as a j GD major. Well , as a result of having been exhibiting at the prestigious NY Art Book Fair, our D is now a published artist as her submission was accepted for publication! kinda big deal.

@gouf78 yes yes yes to all of that! She might even get a good scholarship at UNT bringing down the fees ridiculously low. Now only if we could convince her. Its not the schools for her but Texas. We had moved here from NJ and she never really took to this state. Not sure if she will get into the UT Austin design school as their SAT/ACT requirement is quite high and so are other admissions criteria. And there is pretty much no scholarship there. I can only pray that the young brain can think NOT emotionally

@stones3 Congrats to your daughter. VCU is in her mind and she has already applied. Being OOS we dont know how the finances will work out

Maybe some good looks at potential salaries for graphic design will make a low priced school more palatable.

We have discussed that. And taking loan is the last thing we want to do, for her to start a life with debt. We are waiting for acceptances and the financial packets to compare before making any decisions. Its not just the fees, its also living in NY!

Chiming in late-ish, but I have a very good friend who’s a working artist/business owner/former art teacher who went to what was the college right before it became Pratt MWP and she raves about her experience there. I think at the time it was an associates degree (?) so she eventually transferred to St. Rose in Albany, NY and got her art teaching certification there. She found it a nice mix of solid art instruction but not so hyper competitive as other big schools. This was about a decade ago, but hopefully still similar vibe.

I’ve only spoken to a couple of kids at Pratt who were transfers from MWP but both spoke very highly of it. And from those families we met at admitted students day a few years ago who were considering MWP, all thought it was a pretty reputable two-year program.

@JBStillFlying @ArtAngst She got a great vibe for MWP at the NPD. They have kept in touch, called to say thanks for the application submission (the one and only school that called! and we were really surprised), very responsive in emails and sent a cute little note home after NPD being very appreciative and quite specific about what she critiqued at NPD. I am afraid though all these gestures are giving her hopes and if she doesnt get accepted, it will be hard. She is not a very social kid so the MWP small place seems just about right for her for now (we havent visited) and will be a good transition from home to a big city. ALL if she gets in AND if she gets a scholarship.
Pratt and Parsons are her first choice (RISD she has told herself she wont get accepted but will apply) but it seems a bit impossible right now to be able afford Parsons. RIT , MICA, SCAD her second choice. While mom and dad cross their fingers and dream of a big scholarship some anywhere! :wink:

@JBStillFlying D just received an acceptance email from SCAD. No financial info yet and she is slightly relieved that she has a “real art school” acceptance now. GD is her major… where does SCAD stand compared to PRATT, MICA, RIT (seems to be over SCAD …location being one issue ) etc? not just the 4 years but with internship/job finding opportunities too. Nothing better than to hear from someone already been there :slight_smile:
Anyone else? Any input welcome.
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In terms of early career salaries, the art-focused schools you mentioned above place, from highest to lowest, in the order of Pratt, MICA, SCAD. This could relate to skills acquired, the reputation of the programs, or simply regional variation, among other possible factors.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/pratt-institute-2798

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/maryland-institute-college-of-art-2080

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/savannah-college-of-art-and-design-29258

@merc81 Sounds like it. Thank you! RIT stands no where around this? Its not an art school for sure but I have been seeing it listed with other schools. though I have no idea how reliable the lists are. I suppose one cant tell without a visit and we need to start planning on that.

RIT’s arts programs may match your daughter’s interests very well. I didn’t include it above with the arts-focused schools in order to avoid a salary comparison between, say, graphic designers and computer programmers.

Congratulations to her on SCAD!

@SomaRathore: MICA and Pratt are top-10 for GD; SCAD about top 15 or 20. Not sure about RIT. IIRC, when we looked into schools for GD a few years ago the one university program I kept running into was UCinn/DAAP rather than RIT (though the latter has a decent industrial design program IIRC). My kids were more into stand-alone schools of art/design since those would have a wide variety of studios and a dedicated creative student body. But others speak highly of schools such as RIT. It’s really about fit.

@JBStillFlying Understood. she did applying to DAAP. both DAAP and RIT has the coop too. I guess we will just wait and see where she gets accepted and then try to make the pick. MICA PRATT RISD are def on the top. since her portfolio got accepted in RIT I am assuming she will get in, besides reading about their good technical facilities. I feel its best to wait until the year is over to hear back from schools :wink: Patience is the thing we have to hold on to. Thank you!
@merc81 thank you.

@SomaRathore Just want to give you a heads up of something to consider re SCAD. First off, this is NOT dig to the school. I know of plenty of students who have gone and done well and they have a lot of wonderful alum making impacts in a variety of fields.

BUT, be aware that they are not NASAD certified which could present some issues if your student does not love the school and decides to transfer. Other NASAD certified schools will not necessarily take your students credits and you could find that you’ve wasted a year of school time and $-wise. To be fair, on the pro side of this it means SCAD can quickly change and alter their curriculum to meet changing professional demands in various fields. BUT that also means there’s not as stringent oversight on what is actually taught. More info here https://nasad.arts-accredit.org/

Also keep in mind that they are also a for-profit school and that also has it’s pros and cons. They’ve had some major scrutiny recently with investigative journalism pieces such as https://www.myajc.com/news/special-reports/how-scad-sells-dream/VVfRSVilHliyrTe9LAd5hN/ I’ve known families that were given really generous merit aid packages for freshman year and the students found themselves struggling to maintain the GPA required to keep the aid. Now they’re in a rather crappy catch 22 of paying the full amount OR transferring but basically as a freshman again, since it’s hard to transfer credits somewhere else.

Sorry - do not mean this to be a bummer on the happy news of an acceptance! Just some info to consider when you know all your options and need to try and compare them all.