"Which college is good for me" thread (foreign languages, career as translator, etc.)

<p>This is kind of long. I’ll try to sum it up in a paragraph at the very end.</p>

<p>I’m new to these forums, and with only a brief skimming over a few pages, I already see that this type of thread is pretty common. That’s okay, I don’t believe that everybody can benefit from a one-size-fits-all, read-the-FAQ type of thread when it comes to college. However, you may not feel the same, so feel free to ignore this thread if you want to, but if you think you can help, I’d really appreciate it.</p>

<p>First off, is there a certain age you have to be before attending college? I ask this only because I considered starting this paragraph with something to the effect of “I’m not of age to attend college yet”, but I realized I have no idea if there even is an age you have to be to attend college. I’m sure they want you to have your diploma, which leads me to think that you have to be 18. However, I know a lot of homeschooled kids get GEDs when they’re through with their schooling, and since you can also get your GED at 16 years of age (at least here in Missouri, I don’t know about the compulsory school age in other states), wouldn’t that mean that a sixteen year old could get their GED and apply for college?</p>

<p>The only reason I ask this is because I’m not 100% sure how college works. Do you absolutely have to be a certain age? Do you absolutely have to have a HS diploma or GED? Do you absolutely have to have a certain amount of credits? Or do any colleges ever make any exceptions?</p>

<p>Next, I’d like to kind of describe my situation and what I’m looking to do when I get older, and why I’m considering going to college.</p>

<p>Right now I’m 16 years old. If I attend public school this year, I’ll be a junior. I’ve attended public school every year from Kindergarten to 9th grade. In 9th grade, I withdrew from the public school district after the first semester, to be homeschooled. I had originally planned to continue homeschooling for the rest of my high school years, but something came up and I returned after the first semester of my 10th grade year. I had to have a meeting with someone in the district who said if I could pass every class (he said all I had to get was a D in each class, even though I knew I could do better, and I did) then he would give me credit for all of my 10th grade year as well as the semester of 9th grade I missed. So, I passed all my classes and, if he did as he said he would, all of my credits are caught up now.</p>

<p>I turned 16 in April of this year, so up until that point I was required by law to attend some sort of school. However, that law no longer applies to me, and I could - if I wanted - ignore registration next month and not attend public school anymore at all. Throughout this past semester, I had been planning to go ahead and finish my high school years in the public school, but now I’ve changed my mind. (This will all make sense and fit together eventually.)</p>

<p>Okay, so. What I want to do “when I grow up” is be a translator. Either the technical kind who translate manuals and documents and things of that sort, or the kind who actually work in person with people like new students at a school, people who get arrested, patients in hospitals, etc., to translate what they’re saying. I might even do both.</p>

<p>I’m looking for the college that is going to best suit me as far as getting degrees in languages (I think I’m probably going to start out with Spanish because of all the immigrants in the country [whether or not it is a good idea to provide more translators instead of just trying to have immigrants learn English is a discussion for another thread], but I’m eventually going to learn all of the languages of the United Nations as well as the five languages usually highest in demand [I forget which ones they are right now]).</p>

<p>I’ve made a very strong effort to use the Internet as much as possible in my search for a college, but it’s been incredibly overwhelming. I cannot seem to find any way to narrow down my choices because I cannot seem to find any actual information on specific colleges’ websites about their classes, etc. I figured a forum would be my best bet to get some personalized feedback from people, but even this forum was overwhelming. There’s a lot to consider and a lot to plan for, and I have basically no idea how to get started. The guidance counselors at my high school have proven to be incompetent, at least in my experience, and I don’t mean to insult them, they just have not been of any help at all to me and have been of very very little help to my friends, from what I’ve heard. Also, the foreign language classes offered in high schools around here are a joke. If you want to really learn anything, you have to take them for the entire four years and that’s ONLY so that by the time you reach, say, French III or IV, the kids are in it because they WANT to be in it, not because they HAVE to. Once you get past immature idiots distracting the teacher and generally bringing any sort of learning to a grinding halt, you’re already a junior or senior in high school and you haven’t had adequate enough education in the language (thanks to aforementioned idiots) to understand what is going on in the III and IV levels of the class.</p>

<p>Also, I’m not sure if this is a stupid question or not, because, again, I don’t really know very much about college yet, BUT: Am I out of luck in trying to find a college that deals specifically with foreign languages? I understand that math and science and geography are very important and all that, but my career’s focus is pretty much going to be translation (I understand a lot of people make career plans that don’t go the way they want them to, but I’m not trying to say I’m “definitely going to be in the NBA” or something, I think it’s pretty reasonable for me to expect that things will work out as far as becoming at translator) and I don’t want other classes getting in the way of my education.</p>

<p>Because of that last paragraph (which, technically these aren’t paragraphs, they’re more like groups of text), I’d also like to ask something else: If I can’t find a college that will allow me to take only foreign language classes and not core classes, are there any other types of institutions (i.e. not colleges or universities) that do focus solely on foreign language instruction and offer some sort of proof that you learned there? This is why I want to go to college: I want something to show that I have actually received proper instruction in my language(s) of choice, because I assume that will probably help me get a better job.</p>

<p>So, going back to whether or not to attend public school for the next two years: should I? Are there any colleges or other institutions of education that will accept someone with a 10th grade education about geography, science, and math, but who is aspiring to become fluent in foreign languages? I don’t intend for this to be a “no-brainer” or anything, I’m asking because I honestly do not know. If I can find a college or other institute that will teach me only foreign languages, then I would rather spend the next two years either: getting my GED and then doing independent study in the language(s) of my choice to reach as much fluency as possible before going to college, OR, homeschooling to at least have the “basics” of my core classes taught to me, but putting my real focus on foreign languages anyway.</p>

<p>As for the last paragraph summary: (Note: Some of these questions may sound like no-brainers, but if you read the rest of my post then hopefully you will understand I actually am intelligent, just uneducated as far as college goes)</p>

<li>Is there an age requirement to attend college? (i.e. no college ever takes anyone under 18, etc.)</li>
<li>Is a high school diploma or GED -required- to get into college? (i.e. no college ever accepts anyone based on personal meetings with them and recognizing their ability and potential [I know that may sound unrealistic, to meet with them and get accepted, but I have no experience to base it on, so I figure it’s worth a shot])</li>
<li>Do you absolutely have to have a certain amount of credits? (basically the same as number 2)</li>
<li>Am I out of luck in trying to find a college that deals specifically with foreign languages and doesn’t require you to take math, science, and geography courses?</li>
<li>If I can’t find a college that will allow me to take only foreign language classes and not core classes, are there any other types of institutions (i.e. not colleges or universities) that do focus solely on foreign language instruction and offer some sort of proof that you learned there?</li>
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<p>That’s about it. If you read this all the way, thank you very much. I really do appreciate it. And, again, I understand I’m probably a good target for flames because all of my questions are probably stupid (and I say this because right now I am under the assumption that 1. you have to be 18 to go to college, 2. you have basically no chance of getting in if you have a GED instead of a high school diploma, 3. all colleges require you to take math, science, and geography courses as well as your major, 4. there are no learning institutions that focus solely on learning a foreign language and respectfully disregarding the other core subjects (math, science, geography/history), and if all of these assumptions are true then my questions would therefore be pretty stupid, however they are only assumptions and I could be wrong), but I would really appreciate it if you would just offer helpful, unbiased (e.g. about whether or not I should attend high school for my junior and senior years) advice and personal college recommendations if you have any.</p>

<p>Well, look at that. I made a whole new paragraph after my summary. :frowning: Scroll up a bit to the numbered list if you missed it.</p>

<p>All I can tell you is yes, some colleges will take students who have their GED; yes, there are college freshmen younger than 18 (though usually it's because they skipped grades); and i don't believe there are colleges that will accept students without a highschool diploma or GED, but i'm not entirely sure about that. </p>

<p>one quick thing: you mentioned that becoming a translator is not comparable to getting into the NBA. I would agree with you that the latter is much more competitive, but they both require talent that a lot of people simply don't have. Most people on this earth couldn't learn 5 languages after the age of 15 if their lives depended on it ... just a word of caution, learning languages is not as easy as it might seem, even if you dedicate your life to it.</p>

<p>There are actually more and more colleges that are taking people who have neither a GED nor a diploma. There was an article in the New York Times about it awhile back. However, I'm not sure of the quality of these schools and it would probably be difficult to find a school that does this and meets your other criteria. As for the only languages thing, your best bet would be a school with an open curriculum- meaning there are no requirements and you can take anything you want. Brown is like this, and I believe Amherst is as well. There are probably others. I'm not sure how strong their language departments are. When you look at schools, make sure you look into opportunities to study abroad. Immersion is the fastest way to learn a language.</p>

<p>Anyway, what I would do is look into some schools that have open curriculums and/or strong language programs and e-mail them about the no-diploma thing. And while I agree with lilybbloom that learning languages is very difficult for some people, especially after a certain age, you're still pretty young, and if you are a "language person", learning multiple languages once you've got the first one can be very easy. Once you learn Spanish well, try Italian and French. Other Romance languages should be pretty easy. I speak French quite well after taking it in school for 6 years, and this summer I'm taking Spanish at UPenn. It's extremely easy. Vocabulary words are very similar, false friends are the same so they are not a problem, you are already used to conjugating verbs and saying that you "have cold", etc. Other languages, like Chinese, might prove a bit more difficult, but if you have enough dedication it's definitely possible to learn what you want. I had one French teacher who spoke 7 languages, and another who spoke quite a few as well, including Chinese and bits of Japanese and Korean and a multitude of other Asian languages.</p>

<p>Good luck with whatever you do!</p>

<p>A language college you might be interested in is the Defense Language Institute in Monterey, California.</p>

<p>And: I don't suggest skipping out of high school after 10th grade. You may feel like all the other stuff you learn in school is useless (believe me, I do sometimes), but the truth is that you're being forced to learn it for reason. Getting that exposure to other things will help shape you as a person and contribute to the way you view the world - an education that, in the long run, simply won't be useless.</p>

<p>Also, there are quite a few colleges with little to no requirements other than your major, such as Brown Uni and Hamilton College.</p>

<p>Even the Ivies (most of them) take GEDs. The thing is that you'll probably have to transfer from a community college. It's a good way to go, though, no use in sitting around until you're 18.</p>

<p>Thanks to everyone who replied. I've got somewhat of an idea about what I'm going to do now, much more of a start than I had before.</p>

<p>Also, I was wondering if anyone happened to know of any programs for studying abroad where the student doesn't attend a public high school? I'm thinking I may just order homeschooling supplies like I did for the year I was homeschooled, and then take them with me to whichever country I end up going to, and complete them while I'm there so that I can focus the rest of my time on cultural immersion and language instruction. I may end up looking into a program that does require the student to attend a public high school anyway, but I want to know all of my options.</p>