Which comes first: MPH or MD

<p>I am pretty darn sure that I want to attain a MPH (Master of Public Health) but am not 100% on whether I should get an MD. I do know that to be the best in the Public Health field, I will most probably need the MD and am interested in it, but am not committed. It seems that those who get MDs knew that they wanted to be doctors since childhood. There are othe degrees like the Dr. PH and Ph.D. but I fear that, in the future, I would just fill an administrative position.</p>

<p>So the question - my first choice is Yale University - with the hopes of getting into their 5 year BA/MPH program. Would it make sense to get an MPH before an MD, because I am sure of the former and not 100% on the latter? Would I have a better shot at medical schools because of the MPH? If it is more difficult, then I may just see how it is after 4 years and then choose. I am not prepared to apply for an 8 year program (or 7).</p>

<p>Does anyone have any insight on this topic?</p>

<p>In fact, if I get a medical degree, then I could get a higher public health degree which would also make sense for the type of work I envision doing.</p>

<p>Why do you feel you need the MD? There are plenty of options without having to go down that long and winding road. An MPH is a useful degree. If you really want both, though, it's quite possible to earn an MD/MPH (both at the same time). MD/PhD programs (often called Medical Scientist Training Programs) are also quite common.</p>

<p>Have you considered JHU? It's easier to get into than Yale, and its public health program is excellent. I belive it offers a BS/MPH program, but I'm not sure. </p>

<p>I was interested in public health a while ago, so here's an email I received from the CDC answering some of my questions.

[quote=CDC, Special Pathogens Branch]
Your email describing your interest in working in the field of virology recently reached the Special Pathogens Branch. Special Pathogens is a part of the National Center for Infectious Diseases within the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The Branch handles hemorrhagic fever viruses such as Ebola and hantaviruses and operates a biosafety level 4 laboratory. Members of the Branch include physicians, epidemiologists, statisticians, microbiologists, mammalogists, health educators and administrators. The educational backgrounds of SPB personnel range widely: from doctorate degrees in microbiology, medicine, veterinary medicine, and statistics; to master's degrees in public health, and microbiology; to bachelor's degrees in numerous areas including computer and laboratory sciences.</p>

<p>A genuine interest in public health and solid foundation in the natural sciences are needed to be successful in this line of work. Of those who work in the BSL4 lab, some hold a MD or DVM degree, or a PhD in microbiology, some are certified as medical technologists, and others have Master's or Bachelor's degrees in the biological sciences. The present directors of the virology labs at USAMRIID and CDC, and many of today's leading virologists, hold MD, DVM, or PhD degrees or, in some cases, a combination of an MD or DVM with a PhD. </p>

<p>Comparing the virological work done at USAMRIID and CDC, USAMRIID is generally more involved in studying the viruses and developing preventive measures while CDC also tracks the spread of diseases in human and viral host populations (epidemiology). Virologists and laboratory personnel often move between the two institutes; and as you can see from the list above, researchers and health professionals with various training and experiences work in the Special Pathogens Branch, at USAMRIID, and in other areas at CDC.</p>

<p>Included is a listing of different opportunities available at CDC and ATSDR <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/train.htm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cdc.gov/train.htm&lt;/a>. The listing includes eligibility requirements, a description of the opportunity, compensation, duration, and a contact point for the program.

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<p>MD/MPH Joint Degree Program Guide List of Schools <a href="http://www.amsa.org/cph/mdmphlist.cfm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amsa.org/cph/mdmphlist.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Joint Degree Programs with Accredited Schools of Public Health:</p>

<p>Boston Univ
Columbia Univ
Emory Univ
Harvard Univ
Johns Hopkins Univ
New York Medical College
Ohio State Univ
St. Louis Univ
Tulane Univ
Univ of Alabama at Birmingham
Univ of California at Los Angeles
Univ of Illinois at Chicago
Univ of Medicine & Dentistry of New Jersey
Univ of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Univ of Oklahoma
Univ of Pittsburgh
Univ of South Florida
Virginia Commonwealth Univ</p>

<p>Joint Degree Programs - Affiliated with Accredited Graduate Program in Community Health/Preventive Medicine:</p>

<p>Eastern Virginia Medical School/Old Dominion Univ
Northwestern Univ
Tufts Univ
Univ of North Texas Health Science Center and Univ of North Texas
Univ of Utah School of Medicine </p>

<p>Developing Joint Degree Programs:</p>

<p>Univ of Pennsylvania</p>

<p>Thanks for that. At Brown you can get your MPH while attending Med school at Harvard during your 2nd or 3rd year.</p>

<p>For getting into medical school, people usually choose a science major - but those who are the leaders of the Global Health field (eg Paul Farmer), study medical anthropology. Would it be a disadvantage to study medical anthropology as opposed to biology or biochemistry etc (some hard science field)?</p>

<p>As long as you complete the requirements for med school (intro chem, intro physics, organic chem, year of biology, year of English), you can major in whatever you want. Philosophy and music majors have among the highest rates of acceptance to med school, although that may be due to self-selection. For an MPH program, you may want to add computer science, statistics, and/or microbiology classes.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info everyone. If I earned an MPH first (and did well), would it make my medical school admission easier as opposed to coming straight out of college?</p>

<p>look into Johns Hopkins SPH's Masters of Public Health Track. Without a doubt the best public health school in the world... and perhaps you can get the BA/MPH done is as little as 5 years.</p>