<p>Assuming I have the same GPA/test scores in both schools, which one will get me internships, grad school admissions, jobs etc easier?</p>
<p>I'll be studying ChemE at Berkeley's College of Chemistry, or Chemical and biomolecular engineering at Hopkins. </p>
<p>(I'm not using the name as a factor to decide between the schools - just wanted to know what you guys think! I'm an international student so I'm not that aware of what Americans feel about the 2 schools) Thanks!</p>
<p>They both have excellent national reputations. Sorry but you’ll need to find another factor to help you decide! :)</p>
<p>I would say Berkeley has the better name. Johns Hopkins should either be John Hopkins or John’s Hopkins, or maybe John’s Hopkin. Not sure which, but something about that name just isn’t right.</p>
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<p>go to hopkins. UC has no money</p>
<p>Berkeley has the stronger brand name. It has even mentioned many more times on several movies and tv shows/series than JHU has. But the difference is quite negligible since JHU is also quite a respected school in the academic world. </p>
<p>Berkeley has a top law school, a top engineering school and a top business school. JHU has a top (top 2 actually) medical school. So, in areas where Berkeley is renown, JHU is almost nonexistent. But in medicine, it is Berkeley who’s nonexistent since Berkeley does not have a medical school. UCSF is not Berkeley’s med school.</p>
<p>For undergrad, not even close - JHU. Berkeley isn’t even considered a top 20 school for undergrad. </p>
<p>Berkeley might get mentioned more because it’s the state flagship, and it has tons of alumni. But that’s not the same thing as prestige. </p>
<p>People on these forums regularly claim that Michigan, Berkeley, Penn State, Texas etc. are top 15 (or even top 10 or top 5) schools for undergrad, which I’ve never really understood. Maybe it’s a football thing.</p>
<p>“I’m an international student”</p>
<p>It does not matter for you what high school students in the US think about the reputation of these two universities. What does matter, is what potential employers in your country think. When you finish your degree, you will be able to work in the US for a number of months, but after your working permission expires, you will need to go home (or to a third country). If employers in your country prefer graduates of University X, then that is where you should study.</p>
<p>You can get into good graduate schools from either of these universities, so don’t worry about that.</p>
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<p>Berkeley’s chemical engineering program, in the prestigious and small College of Chemistry, is among the best undergrad programs for this particular discipline.</p>
<p>USNWR’s undergrad chemical engineering rankings:
[Chemical</a> | Rankings | US News](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-chemical]Chemical”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate-chemical)</p>
<p>This is a little like asking “Who’s wealthier - Bill Gates or Donald Trump?” There may technically be a correct answer, but of what relevance would it be? College names don’t get much “better” than Berkeley and Hopkins. :)</p>
<p>Daniel Coit Gilman resigned from the presidency of University of California (which at the time was only Berkeley) to become the first President of Johns Hopkins. So I guess he thought that Hopkins had the better name:) Of course, that was 135 years ago.</p>
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<p>Berkeley was in the top 10 for undergrad only about 10-15 years ago as rated by the same magazine. (JHU was “not even close” according to your opinion.) Has its educational quality changed all that much during this time? Not really. (Financial problems have been dealt with in part by sharp tuition hikes.)</p>
<p>Even with this year’s formula, Berkeley still came out #22 and JHU at #13. I wouldn’t call that “not even close”.</p>
<p>Berkeley by a long shot.</p>
<p>Domestic survey:
[Harvard</a> Number One University in Eyes of Public](<a href=“http://www.gallup.com/poll/9109/harvard-number-one-university-eyes-public.aspx]Harvard”>http://www.gallup.com/poll/9109/harvard-number-one-university-eyes-public.aspx)</p>
<p>International survey:
[Top</a> Universities by Reputation 2011](<a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html]Top”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2010-2011/reputation-rankings.html)</p>
<p>There’s not much of a comparison in layman’s prestige. That said, this really shouldn’t be a factor in your decision. Base it on what each one can offer you, where you feel the best “fit,” etc.</p>
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<p>Leaders of academic institutions quite often leave to found another college (or to have a higher position elsewhere)–they see it as a way of sculpting their own university. Gilman was especially hungry for this and founded academic institutions like one at Yale, Carnegie Institution, and JHU. Clearly Gilman did a good job, because JHU is now a top-15 school.</p>
<p>Just sayin’.</p>
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<p>Being mentioned in TV shows and movies is completely irrelevant to anything. What writers of TV shows and movies happen to put in their scripts means nothing more than that’s what those writers thought would work in their scripts. It’s not a measure of prestige, it’s not a measure of quality, it means nothing.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins’ engineering school definitely has a better international name than Berkeley.</p>
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<p>Oh poop. That’s crap.</p>
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Really? I have yet to watch a movie or tv series/shows where a not-so-prestigious school is mentioned. Script writers aren’t dumb. They want to use examples (or in this case, cite recognizable names or brands) that would make their viewers understand the story easily. For example, in the movie, 2012, Caltech was mentioned. And it was a sci-fi, futuristic movie. I’m sure Williams College has a great science program too. But I wonder who (or which writer) would cite Williams in lieu of Caltech in a movie that is targeted to have a world-wide viewership? </p>
<p>And, please notice that I was talking about brand power of the school name, otherwise known as school prestige. I wasn’t touching the quality of education offered at both schools. But if you’re not considering my movies/tv series examples, try this – <a href=“http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/Journals/THE/THE/10_March_2011/attachments/Brand%20focus.pdf[/url]”>http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/Journals/THE/THE/10_March_2011/attachments/Brand%20focus.pdf</a></p>
<p>Generally, Berkely has the better name. However, one of the only places JHU has the edge of Cal would be in biomedical engineering.</p>
<p>Hard to stop laughing at those public survey reports. Georgetown and ASU the same rank? Texas-Austin over Northwestern? University of Washington over London School of Economics? Really? </p>
<p>Why would anyone care about these rankings. Now, if you surveyed grad school admissions officers or top 100 company recruiters that is a different story. Joe Public is the same person who thinks New Mexico is a foreign country and Slovenia is in Africa…</p>
<p>If you make your decision based upon these surveys, you too could be soon seen on the prestigious Jay Leno late night interview of people on the street. You might even make it into Congress…</p>
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What about Faber College?</p>
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<p>Hearing Hopkins called “John Hopkins” is like fingernails on a chalkboard. </p>
<p>[Johns</a> Hopkins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johns_Hopkins]Johns”>Johns Hopkins - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>Both Berkeley and Hopkins are world-class research institutions.</p>