<p>So basically, all of this hoopala about the Gourman Report is data, which is over 9 year old and individual mileage may vary.</p>
<p>Sybbie-
The data is probably 10 years old. But, the quality of a department generally takes decades to develop and decades to change significantly. It is certainly better than being completely in the dark. Gourman examines some important indicators, listed above. And, what's more, the Gourman overall rankings (based on their numerical system of weighted criteria) fundamentally agree with current rankings by US News in 2006.</p>
<p>There are a few majors with which I am familiar and the Gourman rankings agree pretty well with my knowledge of those programs. If there is a major with which you are quite familiar, tell me and I will list the Gourman rankings for you. Then you can see whether they agree with what you personally know.</p>
<p>carpecollege-
Here are the Gourman rankings for International Relations:</p>
<p>Tufts
Princeton
Johns Hopkins
Georgetown
U Penn
Harvard
Cornell
U Wisconsin Madison
MIT
Stanford
UVA
Notre Dame
US Air Force Acad
US Military Acad
Claremont McKenna</p>
<p>ckmets13-
Here are the Gourman rankings for Physics:</p>
<p>Caltech
Harvard
Cornell
Princeton
MIT
UC Berkeley
Stanford
U Chicago
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
Columbia
Yale
Georgia Tech
UC San Diego
UCLA
U Penn
U Wisconsin Madison
U Washington
U Michigan Ann Arbor
U Maryland College Park
UC Santa Barbara
U Texas Austin
Carnegie Mellon
U Minnesota
RPI
Brown
Johns Hopkins
Michigan State
Notre Dame
SUNY Stony Brook
Case Western
Northwestern
U Rochester
U Pittsburgh
Penn State University Park
U Colorado Boulder</p>
<p>that physics ranking depresses me, now I will be forced to take JHU over BC even though I like BC better</p>
<p>The report seems to favor bigger research oriented schools as opposed to LACs or LAC-like schools (although Princeton seems to be an exception).</p>
<p>if there are rankings on these majors i would really appreciate it.</p>
<p>Management Information Systems </p>
<p>Supply Chain Management/Logistics </p>
<p>Finance</p>
<p>cheapseats-
no ranking for management information systems but there is a ranking for management if you want it. no ranking for supply chain management </p>
<p>Gourman Report ranking for Finance:</p>
<p>U Pennsylvania
Indiana U Bloomington
U Michigan Ann Arbor
UC Berkeley
NYU
U Texas Austin
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
U Wisconsin Madison
Purdue U West Lafayette
U Washington
Michigan State
UVA
CUNY Baruch
Washington U St Louis
Case Western
USC
U Houston
Penn State University Park
Texas A&M
Notre Dame
Ohio State
U Florida
U Arizona
U Utah
Emory U
Louisiana St Baton Rouge
U Mass Amherst
U Minnesota
Southern Methodist
U Oregon
U Maryland College Park (score=4.31)
Lehigh
Arizona State
U Misouri Columbia
George Washington U
Syracuse U
Geoegia State
U Colorado Boulder
Templu U
U Iowa
U Denver
U South Carolina Columbia
U Nebraska Lincoln
U Georgia</p>
<p>sooo, if my counting is correct (may be one or two off), Cornell was #1 in 71 of the 112 subjects listed. </p>
<p>nice to see the "worst ivy" dominating over 63% of the list against the 7 other schools.</p>
<p>gomestar-
The ORDER in which the names appear after the subject doesn't mean anything. Cornell would always be listed first simply because that was the order I entered the data in my spreadsheet. If the name of the school is listed after the subject, it simply means it was one of the top four Ivies according to Gourman OR it had a score over 4.7.</p>
<p>The subjects under the TECHNICAL category are offered only at Cornell so Cornell was the only Ivy listed. </p>
<p>But, yes, if you exclude the technical subjects that are offered only at Cornell, I think Gourman rated Cornell among the top four Ivies in more subjects than any other Ivy, by a small margin.</p>
<p>ahhh, i didnt see any specified way of ordering otherwise (and nothing else was mentioned). </p>
<p>buuuuut at least there's still "Gourman rated Cornell among the top four Ivies in more subjects than any other Ivy"</p>
<p>The finance list is pretty close to what US news has today. In this thread they posted the top 24 finance schools <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=163323&page=2%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=163323&page=2</a></p>
<p>Look at their ranking vs. the Gourman report.</p>
<ol>
<li>University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 1</li>
<li>New York University (Stern) 5</li>
<li>University of MichiganAnn Arbor * 3</li>
<li>University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas) * 4</li>
<li>University of TexasAustin (McCombs) * 6</li>
<li>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) -</li>
<li>Indiana UniversityBloomington (Kelley) * 2</li>
<li>Ohio State UniversityColumbus (Fisher) * 19</li>
</ol>
<p>these are extremely similar. I am thinking about PSU and Wisconsin but UMD seems like the place for me. </p>
<p>I would like to see the marketing list if they have it or the Accounting. Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>Cheapseats-
Here is the Gourman ranking for marketing:</p>
<p>U Penn
Indiana U Bloomington
U Michigan Ann Arbor
UC Berkeley
NYU
U Illinois Urbana Champaign
Michigan State
Purdue U West Lafayette
U Washington
u Wisconsin Madison
UVA
CUNY Baruch
U Minnesota
Washington U St Louis
Case Western
U Houston
Penn State UP
USC
Texas A&M
U Florida
Ohio State Columbus
Notre Dame
Southern Methodist
Lehigh
U Utah
Emory
Louisiana St
U Mass Amherst
U Oregon
U Arizona
U Maryland College Park (score=4.30)
U Iowa
Georgia State
Arizona St
Syracuse
George Washington U
U Colorado Boulder
U Denver
U South Carolina Columbia
U Georgia
U Nebraska Lincoln</p>
<p>ha, talk about just making 4.3s Makes me want to go to Uwisc even more but i think it'll be UMD. UMD is 18th in the US news report in marketing so i guess that is a little better.</p>
<p>thanks again collegehelp.</p>
<p>here are the Gourman rankings for accounting:</p>
<p>U Penn
Indiana
Michigan
Berkeley
Texas Austin
NYU
Notre Dame
Illinois
Purdue
Wisconsin
U Washington
Michigan St
UVA
CUNY Baruch
U Minn
washington U St Louis
Case Western
USC
U Houston
Penn St
Ohio St
Texas A&M
Utah
Lehigh
Florida
Southern Meth
U Mass Amherst
U Arizona
Louisiana St
Temple
Maryland (score=4.27)
Georgia St
South Carolina
Oregon
George Wash
SUNY Buffalo
Missouri
Colorado
Arizona St
Iowa
Emory</p>
<p>Excluding the "TECHNICAL" fields which are offered only at Cornell, here is the number of majors in which each Ivy was among the top few Ivies according to the Gourman Report:</p>
<p>Brown 17
Columbia 44
Cornell 58
Harvard 47
Penn 51
Princeton 34
Yale 35 </p>
<p>I did not include Dartmouth because of the Gourman bias toward larger schools. Too bad Gourman didn't do a separate assessment for small schools. (Although Caltech gets quite a few top rankings...confusing)</p>
<p>I tallied the number of majors for which the Gourman Report ranked a school as one of the top TWO Ivies in that major. The results surprised me.</p>
<p>Number of majors in which school was ranked top two among the Ivies</p>
<p>"TECHNICAL" majors which are offered only at Cornell were excluded. If schools differed by only a miniscule amount, I counted them both.</p>
<p>Harvard 36
Cornell 35
Penn 30
Princeton 26
Yale 21
Columbia 18
Brown 7</p>
<p>I left Dartmouth off because it is more like an LAC.</p>
<p>I have been saying that Gourman favors larger universities, and I still think it does have that bias. But, I noticed that Princeton was ranked among the top two even though it is one-third the size of Cornell. (Caltech also makes it into the top of the Gourman lists quite often, and Caltech is tiny.) The Gourman criteria related to scale and size can be outweighed by other criteria.</p>
<p>hey could someone post the complete Gourman lists for South Asian Studies and Political Science? ITs been tough finding schools that offer both, and the ones I found were pretty competitive (e.g. Harvard, Penn) and I want to find some safeties....thanks!</p>
<p>South Asian Studies from Gourman:
Harvard
U Penn
U Washington
UC Berkeley
U Chicago
Brown
U Minnesota
Ohio St
Syracuse</p>
<p>Southeast Asian Studies:
Harvard
Berkeley
Penn
Chicago
Michigan
Cornell
Wisconsin
Tufts
Ohio St</p>
<p>Gourman ranking in Political Science:
Yale
Harvard
Berkeley
Michigan
Chicago
MIT
Stanford
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Cornell
Princeton
UCLA
Northwestern
UNC Chapel Hill
Columbia
Indiana Bloomington
Duke
Johns Hopkins
Notre Dame
Tufts
Ohio State
U Penn
UVA
Georgetown
Texas Austin
U Washington
U Pittsburgh
U Rochester
Rutgers
Brandeis
Vanderbilt
Illinois UC
Oregon
Maryland CP
Iowa
UC Santa Barbara
SUNY Buffalo
U Mass Amherst
NYU
Michigan St
Syracuse
Washington U St Louis
US Air Force Acad
US Military Acad
Dartmouth
Pomona
Emory
UC Davis
Boston U
Tulane</p>