<p>Ok, Im applying to UCSD, UCLA, UCSB, USC, and USD.
I have about a 3.0 UC gpa.
Well, Im currently enrolled in math 115 (bus. calc). I havent taken math in a while, and I tested into it, so it may be tough.
USCB, USC, and USD take math 115 toward my major.
UCSD and UCLA require me to take a sequence of math 130, 135, 150 and I believe 155. so math 115 would be pointless upon transfer to these schools. And taking math 130 (trig) may help because it is in the direction of my pre reqs.
I really would like to go to UCSD, UCLA or USC. The latter two are unlikely that Ill get in though.
So here is my Question. I was thinking about just taking Math 130 (Trig) instead of 115 (bus. Calc) , because it will better prepare me for math 115 if I do go to UCSB, USC or USD, AND may help my chances of getting into UCSD and UCLA... Do you think it will put me at a disadvantage at USD or USC if I dont take math 115?
Or do you think it would be a disadvantage at UCSD or UCLA if I do take Math 115?
I know this is confusing, but Im basically trying to figure out which schools I should work towards in my major.
I think that I should do 130 because USD and USC will understand that I am just taking a lesser math, whereas if I take 115 it will be in a different direction. I just would like some opinions.
Thanks for any help.</p>
<p>I thought trig is a pre req for calc.</p>
<p>Business calc. won't work
try to get permission and take Calc I</p>
<p>Dont take the wussy calculus. Take the real deal!</p>
<p>/\ thats the plan. I just found out that Math 130 is not UC transferable (125 and 135 are) which is weird, but it looks like I am going to have to take bus. calc (115) to meet my Igetc requirements and then start my Major math sequence post transfer. Oh well, Ill just be extra good at word problems.
I really hope I get into UCSD....</p>
<p>Trig doesnt transfer, that is not weird, it is not the first transferable course, that is usually something along the line of "college and matrix algebra"</p>
<p>I would not take bus calc- waste of time, might as well take the calc you need.
You will meet the igetc req with regular calc I too.</p>
<p>But I didn't test into Calc I. I can take anything up to 130. The thing I thought was weird was that math 125 does transfer, and it is a lower math than 130.
I talked to a councilor and they said just to take business calc, because it will satisfy Igetc, and if I get into a school that I need the other sequence, Ill just start it after transfer, and be somewhat ahead of the game.</p>
<p>Usually schools (such as UCSD) want you to complete the lower-division Math courses PRIOR to transfer. For instance, I applied to UCI as a Business Economics major, and I am currently taking Calc I, which is required prior to transfer - which means if I never took it, then I will not get accepted for next Fall. I already satisfied the IGETC and minimum requirements needed to transfer to a UC by completing pre-calculus, but I would not be admitted to that specific major if I just did that and thought that it would be okay to take Calc I and Calc II after transferring. It really depends upon where you applied, and for what major you applied to. Certain majors will not let you transfer in if you have not completed certain required lower-division courses, including math.</p>
<p>hmmm, thats more to think about. My transfer councilor said not to worry about it, and that I should take 115 so that I at least satisfy IGETC and that it would not in any way hinder my acceptance.
Do you know about management science for UCSD? I was under the impression that it was alright if you did not have your pre reqs met.</p>
<p>I applied to UCSD as an Econ major as well, and I've heard from a few people on this board that it is okay if you don't complete all of the Calculus prior to transferring. This is school specific though. However, it looks much better on your application to have as many pre-requisites completed as possible before transferring.</p>
<p>Are you hoping for UCSD only? Or did you apply to other places as well? I know that UCI, UCSB, and UCLA all require you to complete a certain extent (if not all) of the calculus requirement for Economics transfer students.</p>
<p>I also applied to UCSB and UCLA. I know that UCSB take math 115 towards my major so that is cool.
I just looked at the UCSD site at there is nothing I can really do anyway. Math 115 will at least transfer and help me complete IGETC, whereas if I took 130, I would be on my way toward the right sequence, however would still need to take math 135 before I can even get into 150 which is where the pre reqs for math in this major start. So possibly after transfer, I can test into their calc class since I will have taken this one.</p>
<p>OK stop writing with numbers, name the courses, b/c numbers vary from school to school.</p>
<p>Take the preq for Calc I, you should be able to take that if you tested into Bus Calc. </p>
<p>You can satisfy IGETC with even stats I.</p>
<p>Also, cant you just enroll in the math class anyways, i know you can ask the councelors to clear you for it if you make a good enough point, and then just study hard and do well. You will not have 100 people in your Calc Class, you can go to tutoring and get help and get A/B grades</p>
<p>"OK stop writing with numbers, name the courses, b/c numbers vary from school to school."</p>
<p>thank you.</p>
<p>Good point Malishka.... Guyy, your post was pointless and redundant. </p>
<p>Well I just talked to another councilor, and they said that I should just stay in math 115. They said I could not get approval to get into precalc, and the best option is Math 115. Unless I chose to take trig and precalc together, which I could do.</p>
<p>Does taking bus calc allow you to take calc I your next semester? -- i am going to assume not.</p>
<p>Take Trig + pre calc then calc I</p>
<p>For UCs you should take the regular calc sequence and screw bus calc.</p>
<p>Additionally the reason trig does not transfer is because in some colleges, like the the one i went to, we have a six unit trig+ pre calc class but the UCs only give you at most the units for 1 course- meaning 3 units b/c the trig portion is non transferable. </p>
<p>So this upcoming summer or fall, take Trig+ pre calc, and satisfy your math preqs for calc I.</p>
<p>What she said!</p>
<p>"Does taking bus calc allow you to take calc I your next semester? -- i am going to assume not.</p>
<p>Take Trig + pre calc then calc I</p>
<p>For UCs you should take the regular calc sequence and screw bus calc.</p>
<p>Additionally the reason trig does not transfer is because in some colleges, like the the one i went to, we have a six unit trig+ pre calc class but the UCs only give you at most the units for 1 course- meaning 3 units b/c the trig portion is non transferable.</p>
<p>So this upcoming summer or fall, take Trig+ pre calc, and satisfy your math preqs for calc I."</p>
<p>Thanks for the Info... That sounds like a good Idea. So are you saying that I should complete the pre reqs before transfer? I am transferring (if I get in) next fall, so Maybe I will just take self paced trig, and try to crash pre calc this semester. The only thing is, for USC which is my extreme reach, I need math 115, but I guess they will see that I am making my way to calc 1, so that should not hinder my acceptance, if they do somehow even consider me. I think I am going to do that. I need to see if I can quick though, because I have already updated my APP 4 times so hopefully they will still get my update if I switch those classes.</p>
<p>You want to transfer for Fall 2009 ?</p>
<p>USC is very different, they have a bus program, they take bus calc, and depending on your major that may be all you need.</p>
<p>UC- favors and prefers the sciences sequences. Not only that, i think bus calc doesnt even count for most majors at the UC level, they want for you to take a serious math course. </p>
<p>How many units do you have?</p>
<p>Before next fall you have 1.5 years, in a semester system including summers this gives you 5 semesters- 2 summers, including the one b4 you transfer. With solid 4 semesters at 4 classes a semester you can take 16 courses, that should be enough to cover all of your preqs for your major and your general education preqs, such as IGETC or the UCS preqs, which most likely do not fully correspond with IGETC.</p>
<p>What courses do you have done so far?</p>
<p>I dont understand why you can not just take TRIG+ PREC this summer? and Calc I Fall 08, Calc II Fall 09 ( if you need it)</p>
<p>Edit:
What is your major at each and every school? If your major is econ, you will be extremely unprepared, and most likely even rejected if you are missing Calculus , this refers to UCLA primarily but UCSD or UCB as well. Calculus , the real calc, will be instrumental to you passing the last lower div econ course at those schools and doing well in future econ courses.
---just assuming econ is the major.
In either case, any UC school, you will be better off knowing real Calc rather than Bcalc, you will screw yourself by not knowing it. Also, in regards to your councelor, i can give you one big tip, listen to them, but do your own research, and know the information yoruself, councelors are wrong all too often, and you dont want your lack of information to screw you over. Grab your college catalogue, look up stuff on assist.org, try to find your own statistics about admission, and then use the councelor to marginally guide you, but know the stuff yourself.</p>
<p>Actually, this is my fifth year in college right now. I went to University of Colorado for 1st, 2nd and 4th year. CCC for 3rd and this year. I am just going to take trig right now (self paced) and pre-calc this summer. I think I have everything all figured out now. The only thing Im tripping on now, is the fact that some classes I retook at the University of Colorado dont have the same name, but replace some f's that I got. On my UC app, I did not let them know this, so Im hoping that they can figure out that they are the same class. Also, since F's dont transfer, they are not calculated into my uc transfer gpa, are they?
EIther way, I think I still have a chance. I have 51 units at colorado witha 2.25 gpa (only 41 are transferable, because I have several f's) and 31 transferable units at my CCC with a 3.9 GPA.</p>
<p>If the course is UC transferable, the F should count.</p>
<p>I never heard anyone interpert the transfer policy this way. </p>
<p>The way i always understood it to be, is if the course transfers, the grade transfers and goes into your UC gpa, however, they simply will not give you any transfer credit for it.</p>
<p>Someone please correct me if i am wrong, but i pretty sure you dont get a free pass just b/c the grade is lower than C- (which is what is needed to get credit for the course in regards to transfer)</p>