<p>Hello, I am on my college search and need some help. I am going to be a senior, 29 on ACT, taking all the AP classes I can and have a 3.88 unweighted (4.03 weighted) GPA. I want to be an engineer (don't know what kind). I live in Arizona and through another thread I've made have found out that both the U of A and ASU have good engineering schools, but I don't want to restrict myself. What are some OOS schools that you would recommend me to look at? Take the money aspect out, I will worry about that a little later. Thanks!</p>
<p>Look at Cal Poly SLO and Colorado School of Mines</p>
<p>Nope, you have to worry about the money NOW. Most OOS colleges will charge you full freight especially since your stats are not considered “top level”. </p>
<p>How will you pay? Are your parents wealthy? Engineering schools are impacted at most universities such that your GPA and test scores need to be uber competitive. </p>
<p>Look at costs, because someone has to pay and college is EXPENSIVE for OOS students.</p>
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<p>Well, I could afford $10000 a year without taking out loans. Probably up to $30000 with.</p>
<p>You know that most colleges aren’t $10k right? Let’s assume the CA schools.<br>
The UC’s charge an additional $22K for out-of-state, students bringing your total (tuition only) to $36k. After additional costs (room & board, books and fees), it will run you about $54,000. You’re 30K in loans will only pay for half of your costs. I don’t know how you would get $30K in loans since there is a max of $5500 for your freshman year. You can’t go into debt for $200k over 4 years; that’s too much. </p>
<p>UC’s and Cal States are our public universities. </p>
<p>Cal states are about $22K for residents and OOS pay an additional $372 per undergrad unit at SDSU and Cal Poly SLO. This doesn’t include your travel expenses. So, you’re looking at about $30K for OOS students per year. $120K is a lot of money to repay for a state college. Seriously though, you need to think about costs first, because if you can get in to a college, but you can’t pay the bills, you won’t be able to go.</p>
<p>The California public universities rely on state money. California is broke, so they can charge full fees to OOS students to help pay their university bills.</p>
<p>Yeah I know that which is why I will probably have to take out loans for OOS but is it really worth the debt?</p>
<p>People on here will unanimously agree that no school, not even Harvard/MIT/Stanford, is worth that much debt. You could look into schools like Minnesota - Twin Cities which has great engineering programs and an OOS cost of attendance of around 30k on the high end.</p>
<p>Might be on the borderline of a decent deal with Missouri University of Science and Technology in Rolla, MO - VERY well respected Engineering department (Likely in the top 20 of most polls, albeit not MIT by any means)</p>
<p>Alright thanks! What I was thinking was stay in state for undergrad then go out for my graduate degree. I’ll look around still, but ASU and U of A already gives me a hard choice to make.</p>
<p>If u are looking out of state, it makes more sense to take a look at private schools rather than public schools, since u might be eligible for FA at a private school but not as an OOS student at a public school.</p>
<p>You do realize that loans you can take out are limited to $5.5K as a freshman, rising to $7.5K as a senior? You can’t take out $30K in loans. Talk with your parents about what they can afford.</p>
<p>Iowa State University- Ames
Unversity of Minnesota- Twin Cities
University at Buffalo(SUNY)</p>
<p>These are some colleges with low OOS tuition. Iowa might give you some aid.</p>
<p>Matt0715 - UA and ASU do have find engineering schools but don’t forget about NAU either. For schools around the country that only have a BS/MS (no PhD), the US News has given them a 44th ranking plus they have a 5 year BS/MS Engineering degree.</p>
<p>Also, if you haven’t received any “C” grades on 16 of the courses they consider “core” then you might be granted a tuition waiver (Lumberjack Award) as an instate student. </p>
<p>Just thought I’d mention this … good luck!!</p>