<p>major freshman year?</p>
<p>If you go to Stanford, you don't really have to major in engineering until junior year.</p>
<p>Other schools?</p>
<p>Wisconsin, you enroll in pre-eng classes and if you do OK, you are in.</p>
<p>Rice University is another.</p>
<p>If it is an accredited standard engineering program (BSEE, BSME, etc.), it takes 3 years of math, science and engineering courses to get the degree. Only 1 year of courses can be in other stuff, like humanities, spread out over your 4 years in total. And the math and science have to be the hardcore versions, no Rocks for Jocks or Algebra for Poetry Majors. So there is really no time to be dilly-dalllying around if you think you want to major in engineering.</p>
<p>MIT -- the major you write down on your application has no bearing on what you're allowed to major in when you get there, and freshmen don't declare majors until the end of their first year.</p>
<p>dt123, if a kid has taken calc 3 before freshman year, is that going to help?</p>
<p>Where on the internet can I read a link that has a typical engineering program for 4 years?</p>
<p>MIT is not going to happen.</p>
<p>However, Wisconsin...</p>
<p>OK, I found this...</p>
<p>Most schools that do not have a serparate engineering school don't require you do declare your major going in - at least that's the impression I got when I was applying to colleges. Of the too-many schools I applied to, two had seperate engineering schools, and only one required you to declare your major going in regardless of what you wanted to study. Then again, I am not planning on going into engineering, so i might have missed one or two having separate applications for engineering.</p>
<p>Stanford, Swarthmore.</p>
<p>dstark:
Also take a look at <a href="http://www.engr.wisc.edu/me/current/undergrad/curriculum/%5B/url%5D">http://www.engr.wisc.edu/me/current/undergrad/curriculum/</a>
A whole 14 out 120 hours are liberal studies electives in a BSME program. All the rest are math, science, engineering. </p>
<p>In the Engineering Mechanics degree plan you reference, out of the Engineering Physics dept, 23 hours of communications and liberal studies courses are allowed, but it takes 127 hours to get the degree. Little difference, made up by making the program 7 hours longer to complete.</p>
<p>The point is, if say a communications or business major decided to switch to either program, anything taken after the first semester or so would probably be partly unusable, and after the first year totally unusable. The person would have a much broader education at the end, but it would drag out 4.5 to 5 to ? years. </p>
<p>Not a bad thing at all in my view, I advise engineering students who ask or will listen (not many) to take their time, take extra electives in history, literature, business. But there is a lot of resistance to that, future engineers tending to be practical and focused on the goal of getting that first real paycheck after graduation.</p>
<p>dt123, I understand what you are saying.</p>
<p>One reason I asked the original question was some students don't have the grades in high school to get into many engineering schools. Maybe, they turn it around in college so I was wondering what opportunities are out there.</p>
<p>The following link is for me. (So I can find it easily) :).</p>
<p>Graduating in-state in 5 years doesn't bother me. Out-of-state or a private school, well that doesn't thrill me.</p>
<p>You enroll in pre-engineering Freshman year at Purdue and then transfer to your major, if you have the grades. </p>
<p>I'm not really sure what you are talking about. Is it for someone who is not ready academically for the rigors of engineering or for someone who is considering say engineering or business. If it's the later, it's better to enroll in engineering and transfer to business. If it's the former, there are schools that less prepared students can enroll in.</p>
<p>Harvard and Yale. But, if grades are a problem, I guess these schools would not be options.</p>
<p>i know at my school you have to be accepted into the program.. either at the beginning when you declare your major, or at a certain time later.. let me find the site</p>
<p>I'm not sure if that's how other colleges are or not.</p>
<p>I think other liberal arts colleges (in addition to Swarthmore, mentioned above) like Trinity in Hartford, Union College in NY state, maybe Lafayette, Lehigh or Bucknell. I don't really know the answer but would check those out.</p>
<p>I remember that when we toured Tuft's that they were proud of the fact that there were more engineering students after the freshman year than what had entered as freshmen - unlike the attrition that typically happens at most engineering schools. This obviously implies that it is possible to enter as a non-engineer.</p>
<p>Stony Brook will allow you to apply for engineering after acceptance.</p>