<p>so why do i feel sorry for them?
because i think there's a greater joy to be found.</p>
<p>I didn't mean it in any philosophical way. I'm just saying that some people measure productivity by how enjoyable their lives are (I'm one of those people). And if chasing women is fun, it's productive, to me. And not everyone is able to see this greater joy that makes following their primal urges pointless.</p>
<p>What are they running such that you have to chase them? How is that fun?</p>
<p>student14, I meant that in a metaphorical sense. 'Chasing girls' is a common expression used to refer to trying to pick up women. Not that they are actually running away, or I am actually chasing them, lol.</p>
<p>Russell7, a true man can get girls to chase him and pay for ALL dates. Alpha males have it so easy.</p>
<p>hahaha, that's not how it works for 99.9% of us guys.</p>
<p>I don't know about that, though. Alpha males usually have the dominant "I know what I want and I'm gonna get it" mentality... so they'd still be the one's doing the approaching.</p>
<p>But a true alpha male will have loads of girls coming after him. He can't approach them all. But seriously alpha males (many of which are jerks) get the best deal with women. I know a guy like this. He gets sex on demand, expensive gifts, emotional support, someone to cook and clean for him and no nagging without giving much in return. My hero lol.</p>
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hahahaha!
my dear spanish-vulgarity <3'ing friend, tell that to the millions of men who, high off their testosterone, pummel the bejeezus out of the women who take care of them and the itty bitty children that they produced with those women.
tell that to the vast number of male serial killers on death row, then compare their numbers to that of female serial killers.
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<p>A real man doesn't do that. I'd hardly call him 'high off testosterone.'</p>
<p>However, I see TONS more girls putting up stupid crap like "I love him." or "I can't be without him." after like a week of dating, especially in high school (and I've seen tons of college girls pull that too). I think they're much more prone to attachment and at frightening speeds. </p>
<p>Yes, the guy is freaked out, but of course he doesn't cut it off because of course, he wants to get some. </p>
<p>Sure, guys go crazy quite often (like serial killer); but when women go crazy, they REALLY go crazy (e.g. jumping a pregnant woman and cutting out the fetus).</p>
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thinking, reading, writing, thinking, etcetera will. if i don't maximize the potential of my brain, and no one else does with their own brains either, then our descendants will have maybe some different, improved physical attributes millions of years down the evolutionary path, but our brain development and our ability to think and rationalize will have ceased to develop. not exactly following the natural order that science has discovered and pointed towards thus far.
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<p>I hope you're not implying that you plan to alter your genetics and the characteristics you pass on to your offspring by studying.</p>
<p>right right, because a serial killer who, say, kills a woman, then rapes her, then skins her, tans her skin, then repeats the process and sews various pieces of these women together for a woman-suit is not as crazy as a woman who rips the fetus out of a pregnant woman. i'm not saying he's a "real man", whatever that means, but i'm debating your suggestion that when women go insane, they go "more insane" than men. people of both sexes can do some pretty crazy shiz when they go nuts.</p>
<p>and am i suggesting that i can alter the characteristics i pass on by studying? yes, sort of. do a google search, there's load of scientific study that says our habits and environment can affect what's passed on to our offspring.</p>
<p>well this thread has proven to not be too uplifting. thank goodness for beer goggles. lol.</p>
<p>Not too uplifting? What did you hope for?</p>
<p>I've got a question, though. What did you mean by "decent guy" when you said "I guess it's time to hit up the plastic surgeon if I wanna land any decent guys in college."</p>
<p>And beer goggles? lmao. You talking about hooking up with guys or dating?</p>
<p>you know, the type of guys who want every woman to look like a carbon copy of hugh heffner's girlfriends. = highly desirable and clearly respectful of women for who they are.</p>
<p>riiiight. Because women don't discriminate based on looks, right? Or about height and social status. I wasn't asking you.</p>
<p>i was commenting on the OP's equating "decent guys" to guys that would require her to get plastic surgery. tell me you don't think that's silly.</p>
<p>and i don't discriminate on looks. what's the point?
i technically consider my significant other to be ugly, he's shorter than me, and he's from a poor, rural area, while i consider myself to be attractive (but there's no way to prove that to you, not that it really matters to me) and am from and upper-middle class home. but we've been together for two years. i'm telling you, it's about the emotional control. i found someone who i consider to be intellectually in sync with me despite most other factors that typically contribute to "attraction". and i'm glad for that.</p>
<p>I thought that you were just taking another opportunity to bash men. If this isn't the case, then I'm sorry...</p>
<p>and yeah, I do find it kind of funny. I mean, she's talking about wanting decent guys, and then she mentions needing plastic surgery or needing them to be drunk in order for these decent guys to want her.</p>
<p>I'm also curious because I'm assuming that 'good looks' are part of her definition of a decent guy. It's funny because I go to another forum dominated 99% by guys and there's threads about guys calling girls shallow and whatnot, but these same guys are the one's wanting hot chicks. This seems like the opposite, or maybe not, which is why I asked.</p>
<p>to russell-
well of course part of the definition of decent guy is decent looking but that 's not the only part. HOWEVER, in college, it would be difficult to argue that there are slim opportunities to find a guy who is decent looking, nice, smart, funny, not too too shallow, AND atainable no? as for guys, i'd say you have a much easier time finding a decent looking girl who is nice, funny, not shallow. i'm not saying there are no shallow, *****y girls around, but you have to admit that there are many more girls who give guys leeway when it comes to looks, as oppose to guys. i'm not trying to be sexist or offend you, but the sheer number of most attractive females threads is living proof of that.</p>
<p>I'd actually say that they exist in equal proportions. My sisters are good looking and I've never seen them with a guy that wasn't also good looking. My good looking female friends all have good looking boyfriends. My average looking female friends all have average looking boyfriends. If you're going to consider more than looks, I'd say that women are actually more picky. Women are MUCH, MUCH more picky with height, for example. So don't go talking about how men are shallow...</p>
<p>The thing is, that however good looking you are (I really have no idea), you can pretty much expect people around your level of attractiveness. If you don't consider yourself decent looking, it'd be pretty hypocritical to be reprimanding these good looking guys that don't want you.</p>
<p>And like I said, the number of "attractive female" threads is due to males hitting their sexual peak around this age and constantly thinking about women.</p>
<p>It's funny you say that you see girls with guys of about the same attractiveness when it's kind of the opposite for me. I know quite a few decent looking girls who are going out with some guys who are much, much worse looking then them. And also, I know this is beyond the real world but what about celebrities? Take example Jessica Alba - most would agree she's very pretty, but her bf? Not so great. Same with J Lo. Monica Bellucci. Catherine Zeta Jones. List goes on... when it's pretty rare that you see a really hot guy with a not so good looking woman regardless of how good her personality is. Anyways, yeah again I'm not saying women can't be shallow as well, but it seems that alot of girls will put looks second while it's rare that the same can be said for guys. I didn't mean for this to come off as a man bashing thread , sorry if it seems that way. I guess I'm just venting frustrations.</p>
<p>PS. I'm not too picky about height, since considering I'm 5'2 it doesn't take much to be taller than me! lol.</p>
<p>When do you ever see a guy with a girl who makes more money than him. guys want looks , girls want money. its human nature</p>
<p>my mom makes three times as much as my dad, and has since they got married thirty years ago.
i also make more money than my significant other, much more.
generalizations = lame.</p>