Does one university put more of cap on their out-of-state & international students than the other? UVA seems to be an easier school to get into in terms of standardized testing, but do they expect generally higher scores from out-of-state and international applicants?
It depends on the program and your background, but it is my understanding that UVA has more of a limitation on out-of-state and international applicants in terms of how many the school will admit and enroll as an overall percentage of the student body. However, Michigan likely receives a lot more out-of-state and international applications, so it may be difficult to accurately ascertain where out-of-state and international applicants will have a harder time gaining admission.
In both schools, applicants who are out-of-state/international and not from a region the university needs more students from (ex: Utah, North Dakota, etc.), generally need to be significantly more competitive than their in-state counterparts to gain admission.
Out of state students at UVA are limited to 1/3 of the total student body. I believe over 70 percent (the percentage is in that range) of their applicants are OOS/International applicants.
Near half of the students at UMich are from OOS or international while the number of in state applicants is less than 20% of all applicants.
I think it is closer to 40% Out-of-state/international, 60% in-state for the actual student body. However, you are right in saying that there are a lot more OOS/international applicants than in-state applicants, despite there being more spots for in-state students.
@yikesyikesyikes It was 40:60 in the past but not anymore. It was around 45:55 in the last year. The in-state admission rate has dropped further down to 42.4% this year making it even closer to 50:50.
Here are the % of in-state freshmen in Fall admission:
2010: 59.93%
2011: 59.40%
2012: 58.81%
2013: 58.81%
2014: 54.90%
2015: 57.19%
Note that the in-state admission rate was ~49% last year but 42.4% this year.
Thanks for the stats - hopefully they continue to move towards less reserved spots for in-state students.
@yikesyikesyikes
That has been the trend in last decade. Unlike other states, UMich does not need to hold certain number of spots for in-state students. Nevertheless, I would rather they keep the number of in-state students while admitting more OOS students. This year, they are expecting ~15% larger freshmen class while they admit less in-state students. I am expecting it to reach a record low percentage of in-state freshmen class this year.
Here is an article from last year:
http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/02/u-m_out-of-state_residents.html
The number of Michigan HS students continues to decline and Michigan has said they will admit the top 6.5% of in-state HS students (this figure has remained constant over the past few decades) . How that translates to actual students will likely vary a bit, but the in-state yield is very high, around 82%.
@billcsho , I am not sure why the in-state admission rate dropped so much this year, the number of HS students has not dropped by 15%. Did they finally tire of poor support from the legislature?
@TooOld4School The HS graduates dropped slightly, but the number of in-state applicant hardly changed. It is still around 10500. The in-state yield rate was usually around 70-75%. As the reputation of UMich keeps going up, it is not a surprise to have a higher yield rate. The in-state yield rate for 2014 and 2015 were 68% and 69%, respectively. The OOS yield rate was around 25% and that has been going up too. Last year, the overall yield rate got a big jump (from 41% in 2014 to 45% in 2015) while it drops a little bit this year (43.2%). It was around 40% in 2009-2013.
http://www.ns.umich.edu/new/releases/23201-u-m-student-enrollment-stable-more-diverse-for-fall-2015.
http://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/factsfigures/freshprof_umaa_fall13.pdf