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<p>I just submitted my RD app for CAS! Here we go…</p>
ED: Wharton vs Columbia
Hi there!
I’m an international student applying in the 2015/2016 cycle. If you’re curious about my stats, I would say that my overall portfolio would put me in decent stead to try for the ivy leagues but they will definitely still be “reaches” for me, especially considering the fact that I am an international student.
I intend to study major in Economics at university and hopefully go into finance/banking if possible. I recognize that in accordance with that Wharton should be the dream school. However, I really love New York City and going to Columbia would help me to taste a wider variety of subjects.
My questions are:
- Which schools have lower admission rates for ED (i.e. which is harder to get into)? Although the ED rates for UPenn and Columbia are available online, they do not specify the admission rate of Wharton specifically. Could anyone comment on this please (I’m not from the US so I don’t have sufficient knowledge/exposure to infer).
However: I’m assuming Wharton should be HYSPM-level hard to get into, making it harder to ED into than Columbia?
- Does Wharton really give you a lot more opportunities banking/finance wise than Columbia?
Thanks so much!
@jemster1996 I can’t speak for Columbia, but for UPenn (I’m currently studying there) ED acceptance rates are MUCH higher, upto 25% as compared to RD’s 10%. Penn has mentioned on various occasions that they prefer ED applicants, and they take up as much as a quarter of their entire batch during ED. If you want to apply to Wharton go for ED, also, Penn selected a surprising number of deferred candidates this year, so there are multiple chances. And yes, Wharton is the no 1 undergrad business school, it definitely gives you a lot more oppurtunities. Wharton has major connections, it’s like the business worlds MIT. 
@jemster1996 Wharton doesn’t release admissions stats, so it’s difficult to gauge exactly what the acceptance rate is, but it is definitely below Penn’s overall rate. Wharton is known to be as difficult to get into as HYPSM, but once again, no one knows exactly where it stands.
As for your second question, yes, Wharton provides more and better opportunities for IB and the financial sector in general. Take a look at the Class of 2014 survey, which lists where graduates went to work and what the average salaries were: http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/careerservices/files/WHA_2014cp.pdf
Some companies hire exclusively from Wharton or prefer Wharton graduates because they already have basic skills for the industry, and don’t need to be trained as much. That’s why Wharton grads get more hedge fund jobs and the like, which are almost impossible to get without prior experience in the financial sector. Columbia definitely has good IB/finance placement as well, but it can’t match Wharton, which is considered a finance Mecca for a reason. In the end you can’t go wrong with either college, but if you’re set on finance/business, Wharton wins.
Hey PennGiRL29, could I get your skype on private message so I could ask some questions about Penn?
whoops my bad this thread is old
I’m new to the site, and I’m not sure where to post this, can you “chance me”?
I am painfully aware of a very average GPA, that is actually closer to 3.7. I speculate that I can raise my SAT score to 2300+ and am confident in a 35 on the SAT. I am apprehensive because I spent a lot of my time focusing on extracurriculars and it has taken a toll on my GPA. I go to a very challenging private high school (consistently 2nd in the nation according to polls) which only adds .25 per AP class on a 100 point scale. I am very apprehensive about the admissions process as there is much pressure by my parents to get into a top-class university. Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
Statistics:
Year: Junior
SAT I: 2290 (Math: 750; Reading: 750; Writing: 780)
ACT: Expected score of 35 (judging by ACT PLAN scores)
SAT II: Bio-M (800); Math II (800); Physics (770)
Unweighted GPA (out of 4.0): 3.8
Rank: Highschool does not rank
AP (place score in parenthesis): Bio (5); Environmental (5); APUSH (5); AP English (5); AP European (5); AP World (5);
Major Awards (USAMO, Intel, etc.):
1st Grand Award (EV): Intel International Science and Engineering Fair
3rd Award I-SWEEEP
MUN Distinguished Delegate
Permanent Collection Artist
Subjective
Extracurriculars (see above for awards):
United States World Team Pentathlete:
Top three finish at Nationals, Poor performance at World Championships
B Rank Fencer- In touch with Ivy Coaches, Potential (A) rank
1st Team All-State Varsity Soccer
Captain and co-founder of Varsity Baseball team.
Job/Work Experience: (paid)
400 Hours Paid Intern Work at a private Biotechnology Institution
Volunteer Work
200 Hours Community Service (Camp Camp/ Assorted)
Essays (rating 1-10, details):
I felt confident with Common App Essay, most likely a 9 as writing is my strong suit.
Recommendations (rating 1-10, details):
Teacher #1 7/10: AP Biology teacher, I got a good grade but didn’t have a personal connection with her.
Teacher #2 9/10: Tenured English Teacher, exceptional letter (I peeked at it whoops)
Optional Rec: 9/10: Chief Scientific Officer of aforementioned Biotechnology Company
Counselor: 7/10: Described me as an awesome student, one of the best in her career and I hung out in her office a lot so we knew each other pretty well. Mentioned that I took every AP class available excluding language and art classes and took Calc 3 and linear algebra in 11th
Other
Applied for Financial Aid?: No
Intended Major: Biology
Intended Grad Program: Law School
State (if domestic applicant): TX
Country (if international applicant):
School Type: Private: 32 Student Graduating Class
Ethnicity: Caucasian/Asian
Gender: M
Income Bracket: ~ 80k
Hooks (URM, first generation college, etc.): None
If you are wondering why Biology and Law School (an odd combination), I was projecting a career as an IP Attorney.
Thanks Again!
-Apprehensive Student
@marginallyadept I would start a new thread for a Chance Me I would be happy to chance you there if you @ me
If you’re from a small state, you should definitely check this out: http://www.thedp.com/article/2016/01/admissions-office-diversity
The Daily Pennsylvanian (Penn’s newspaper) met with Penn’s president, and she talked a lot about how the accepted students are coming from more and more parts of the country.
Hi all,
Just had a quick question. Suppose you apply to M&T in addition to Penn Engineering ED. Now let’s assume that this hypothetical applicant was admitted to the School of Engineering but did not receive admission to M&T. Is this admission still binding, or would the applicant be permitted to apply elsewhere RD?
@MALABARCOAST2014 The admission would still be binding.
@tenderp What do you think about Penn bioengineering vs Princeton bioengineering. How important is accreditation
@MALABARCOAST2014 That I can’t answer as I don’t know too much about either’s bioengineering program, haha. Hopefully someone else has insight!
@MALABARCOAST2014 Regarding the admission to SEAS but not M&T in the ED round, you can decide in advance how you want to handle that situation. You can tell admissions when you apply (on the app) that you don’t want to be considered for SEAS in ED and only M&T if that’s what you want.
can you get rejected from Wharton undergrad but accepted to U Penn?
Early decision CAS!!! Good luck everyone!
I’m applying soon. Please chance me?
Hi, would you guys please chance me?
I’m a 21 year old male attending a Texas CC (Houston, close to Rice). Intended Major is Philosophy with English minor, with the ultimate goal of attending a top-twenty law school.
BACKGROUND:
If you feel it would be helpful, please feel free to read my story on my profile page. Briefly put, I was homeless periodically since age 12 until 18. From about 18-20, I worked in the oilfield while dealing with my dad’s medical issues. At 20, just before my 21st birthday, I finally broke into the world of the academics by earning my GED (Honors).
ACT: 32
(Math brought me down, got nearly perfect scores in the other sections. In response to this, I’ve taken math in CC so I can score higher on the ACT math section. I have taken one math, gotten an A, and am about to take the second math. Since the ACT tests college readiness, and I have done college math now, I will do better. Just assume it will be a 34-36? I will retake it, and trust me, I will get a 34-36.)
GPA: 4.0
LOR: 4 letters, each powerful and unique.
One letter by my HS counselor who knew me back when I used to sleep in a van. Naturally, it is an emotionally charged letter with his full backing and support. Also, I forgot to add, I have three outstanding letters from my professors.
EC’s and awards:
Honors College member
Honors College Scholarship winner
Stayton Scholarship for Writing winner (published author in poetry and non-fiction)
Peer tutor for English/Composition and Rhetoric
Coauthor for my professor’s PhD dissertation,
***(Part of my professor’s dissertation deals with critiquing the English abilities of immigrants. Therefore, I am not a research collaborator, as I understand it, but a legitimate coauthor. This seems most obvious in that I have produced the entirety of chapter four of his book, which he proceeds to comment on in chapter 5, and which will soon be published at University of Houston-Downtown.)
Phi Theta Kappa member
Editor-in-chief of newspaper that spans the college system that I attend, (8 campuses in a major city)
Thanks for reading all of this. Please let me know what else I can do (and please move if I posted in the wrong place…)