<p>There usually isn't a set "standard" that highly selective schools are looking to meet each year during the admissions process. Most of these schools do not have a set, specific cutoff for stats - and those that do usually are flexible with it. As tokyo mentioned, it really depends on who applies in a specific year - if for some reason kids with stronger stats apply to Stanford one year than apply to Yale, chances are Stanford's incoming class is going to look "stronger" <em>on paper</em> than Yale's. But you guys are missing one very important point - GPA and SAT scores aren't the only thing these schools are looking at in making their decisions. A 4.0 GPA and 2350 SAT do not necessarily "qualify" you for admission to Harvard the same way a 3.0 GPA and 2050 SAT do not necessarily mean you will be denied. Too many CC'ers obsess over these stats and fail to realize that we are creating a community of learners, not statistics. These quantifiables are only one indication of a school's level of selectivity and not necessarily sympomatic of what, specifically, a school is looking for. This is evident in the Ivies - there are plenty of kids who get in to Harvard, Columbia, and Yale but who are denied from Brown and Princeton. These 8 schools are all very different and they - like all other schools - are looking for the right "fits" for their campuses.</p>
<p>tokyo...
I don't think the admit rate difference between Princeton and Stanford is significant at all. The difference in SATs seems notable enough to ask whether there is something else going on that I'd like to know more about.</p>
<p>Class of 2010 when or if you were rejected from HYP where did you ended up going??</p>
<p>My sister was rejected from HYP and ended up going to UVA and love it very much!!!!</p>
<p>BC and BU are much more similar to each other than either of them is to Tufts. Tufts is peer to JHU or Northwestern. BC and BU are not. (That's not to say they're bad schools; they're not.)</p>
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Class of 2010 when or if you were rejected from HYP where did you ended up going??
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<p>I personally didn't apply to any of them, but of the people I know who were rejected from HYP, people went to: Brown, Vassar, Duke and JHU.</p>
<p>I bet . . . </p>
<p>MIT
Caltech
Berkeley
UCLA
Cornell
UChicago
Tufts
Swarthmore
Amherst
Williams
Boston College
Stanford
Duke
UPenn
Brown
Dartmouth
Columbia
NYU
USC
Vanderbilt
Rice
UVA
UNC (Chapell Hill)</p>
<p>The list goes on and on . . .</p>
<p>Berkeley, UCLA, NYU, Georgetown. HYP isn't the only thing out there, and neither are the other 4 I just mentioned. Just because something isn't top 10 doesn't mean it's terrible.</p>
<p>Duke is my backup if Yale, Stanford, Harvard, and Princeton reject me. Which is highly likely. So, there's an answer to your question.</p>
<p>MallomarCookie , What a great back up!!! A lot of smart kids have Duke as their reach school, the fact that you feel Duke is your back up is a prestige by itself.
Good Luck</p>
<p>Mallomar is right. A backup is different from a safety. It is an alternative, so it should be in the same league as other reaches.</p>
<p>Who gets Stanford/MIT rejects?</p>
<p>HYP, Chicago, CMU, Hopkins,...etc. :p</p>
<p>Most kids a my school think HYP rejects end up at Stanford or Hopkins.</p>
<p>I hate to say it, but this is a pretty worthless thread.</p>
<p>I am a Tufts student, and I admit, an Ivy reject (Yale in my case). However, I'm not bitter about it. I admit I was for a little while, but by the end of my first year, I had moved on. I think this happens with a lot of other people too. </p>
<p>Also, w/regard to Tufts vs. Northwestern, Duke, UChicago, UMich, Emory, et al, I believe that the quality of education at Tufts is about the same as any of these schools, and also that these schools are all roughly as good as each other. It all greatly depends on what type of student you are and what you want to study. It's just that Northwestern, UMich, and Duke are better-known to the average person for their sports teams.</p>
<p>I think the question posed by the OP is based on a false assumption. When you say Duke, UChicago, etc. "get HYP rejects," you're assuming that HYP, by virtue of being more selective, are somehow of a higher tier academically as well.</p>
<p>The question assumes that there is a group of kids who weren't quite good enough to make it to HYP, but who are "too good" for the "lower tier" like Duke, etc, but "ended up" at the lower tier because they couldn't make it to HYP. But this idea, that there is a group of students "falling through the cracks," is a myth. The fact is, HYP's higher selectivity is NOT correlated to a magically superior academic experience, and as such the "HYP rejects" aren't being shortchanged at all.</p>
<p>Admissions officers at HYP repeat ad nauseum that they could fill their classes twice, three times over without lowering their criteria. There's just that many qualified applicants. The ones who get rejected go to different colleges--ones that are just as good or better. The fact that they got rejected from HYP and went to other schools like MIT, Northwestern, Stanford, Duke, Caltech, UChicago, etc. does not imply that HYP were better academically, that these students were of a lower academic caliber, or that the schools they eventually attended were of a lower academic caliber. Selectivity doesn't tell you anything about the quality of a school.</p>
<p>I agree with what beantowngal said earlier,
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A backup is different from a safety. It is an alternative, so it should be in the same league as other reaches.
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When I said Duke was my backup, I didn't mean to imply that it was a lesser school, the one I'd have to go to if the "good" colleges didn't work out. Duke, UChicago, Stanford, etc. are all of the same caliber as HYP--arguably, they offer better academics or undergraduate experiences than the Ivies. The difference between these schools and HYP is simply one of prestige (a shallow impression which I acknowledge is tough to shake). These schools are alternatives, not safeties or backups. The only thing they're lacking is the prestige- and hype-fed selectivity, so that's why they're alternatives.</p>
<p>mallomar: Very well stated. I think many on CC would echo your thoughts.</p>
<p>The original question i.e on the first page is " Does anybody know who gets HYP rejects??????????" Growing up I was encouraged to ask ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS ,GOOD OR BAD OR... mostly by my parents and was quite welcomed by my teachers and so on... I asked this question to prepare my self come march 29th (I expect rejection from HYP) For those of you who answered my question sincerley Thankyou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>I wasn't really addressing you particularly, sorry whyivy. I just saw a LOT of misguided responses on this thread (you can see them for yourself) and I felt that they needed to be addressed. Good luck on Mar. 29, whyivy. I saw that you were deferred from Harvard--you must have something going for you.</p>
<p>Good Luck tomorrow to everyone waiting decisions , I will hear one today in about an hour from Johns Hopkins and about 5 or 6 Ivies tomorrow!!!!! In my case as to who gets HYP rejects might be MDCP honors and gemstone, UVA honors and got a likely from Cornell .................... the list would continue tomorrow! I wish UVA waited till tomorrow to release my decision oh well</p>