Who said the Pac-10 is a weak conference?

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<p>I don't know that it's any worse than, say, the Meineke Car Care Bowl. I rather doubt that a guy is going to watch that game and then feel the need to rush out and get a new muffler.</p>

<p>Lol, i just love the bowl names, i mean...what's better than the papajohns.com bowl and the Chick-fil-A Bowl?</p>

<p>^ or the Poulan WeedEater Independence Bowl...:rolleyes:</p>

<p>lol, these posts are making me laugh. I don't know, I suddenly feel un urge to go to papajohns.com right now, in fact I will.</p>

<p>UCB: you mistake reality for elitism again. No, I don't think OSU should be in the ncg. If I were choosing, it would have been Oklahoma and LSU/Georgia, which, you will notice, are 2 NON PAC-10/BIG-10 TEAMS. Actually, I dislike both the Big-12 and SEC conferences, but I think those teams are most deserving. True, HI doesn't have power over their conference. But they do have pwr over their non-conference schedule. I will give them respect if they can beat USC, Florida, Wisconsin, and powerhouse NW on a regular basis. Once they do that, then they will deserve to go ahead of an 11-1 team that lost only to the #3 team in the country. Your theory is amusing, but not truly fair. HI hasn't proven that they want to earn respect through their pre-season schedule this year, and until they do, many, many people will only regard them as an exciting team that sneaks up when other teams fall by playing cupcakes on a regular basis.</p>

<p>vc08, I was chiding you in a tounge-in-cheek manner, when I said you were being elitist. :)</p>

<p>I disagree with you that Hawaii shouldn't be in a BCS bowl. The BCS (composed of all NCAA Div 1 conference commissioners + Notre Dame AD) made the rules and Hawaii was awarded a spot based on those rules.</p>

<p>FOX</a> Sports on MSN - BCSFootball - The BCS is ...

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3. One team from among the champions of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference automatically qualify for a BCS game if either: A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or, B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

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<p>It's not my "theory" it's facts based on the given rules.</p>

<p>Hawaii wasn't an "at-large" selection. The three teams that are "at-large" selections are Kansas, Georgia and Illinois. Kansas should have been replaced by Missouri. Illinois was selected because it was a BigTen team, and the Tournament of Roses wanted to preserve a BigTen/Pac-10 matchup. Florida was not able to be part of the BCS, since Georgia and LSU were already in, and the BCS does not allow 3 teams from a conference.</p>

<p>I never said you weren't quoting the rules, I know HI is qualified through them. I'm just saying I disagree with how they are selected, when better, more exciting teams/matchups are out there just waiting to be seen.</p>

<p>Tedford is supposedly one of the top 3 candidates for the Michigan job now, just thought I'd throw that out there.</p>

<p>I agree with UCB. I just want to add that Hawaii is definitely more deserving Kansas. I don't believe Kansas has harder schedule than Hawaii and Hawaii is undefeated. That alone merits quite a bit considering the parity and how wacky the results were this year.</p>

<p>vc08, technically, you are disagreeing that Hawaii should be ranked in the Top 12...therefore, HI wouldn't get an automatic bid. Fair enough.</p>

<p>You don't want to underestimate Hawaii. That QB throws more accurately than anyone right now. Most QBs in top teams, including Booty, definitely don't throw as well as he does.</p>

<p>Tedford said he wouldn't leave Cal until his kids are out of school. Also, he is a native Californian.</p>

<p>But, I think it all hinges on whether or not Cal wins the lawsuit to remodel the stadium. If Cal loses, I'd say all bets are off and we can kiss Tedford goodbye.</p>

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<p>Coming back from being down 21-0 against Washington, ultimately ending with 5 TDs, Colt Brennan definitely is a prolific passer. He was the nation's top passer last year.</p>

<p>Interesting interactive chart shows how the coaches voted in the final USA Today Coaches Poll:</p>

<p>USATODAY.com</a> - USATODAY.com - 2007 final Top 25 football coaches' ballots</p>

<p>Colt Brennan is a definite bona fide college quarterback, deserving of Heisman Trophy. I can't believe he's not in the Heisman Award consideration accoring to Rivals.com Rivals.com</a> College Football - Buchanan's Ballot: In the end, it has to be ...
He's a finalist for only one award?! Rivals.com</a> College Football - Rivals.com 2007 Awards Watch
But he will be either boom or bust at the next level. He's tremendously accurate, got a good arm, and is a clutch player. But I think because he's playing in a system offense, he was able to be so prolific. Plus, NFL teams aren't going to like his sidearm throwing. He could go anywhere from early first round to second or third round, depending on how he performs in the Sugar Bowl.</p>

<p>Funny comments on Calfootballfan.com blog about the Big Game and season:</p>

<p>The</a> Cal Football Fan Blog » Big Game thread</p>

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<p>Longshore is TERRIBLE!!!!!!</p>

<p>Maybe he’ll go on his mission next year instead of torturing us with more 4th quarter interceptions.</p>

<p>He STINKS!!!!!</p>

<p>Go Bears in 2008!!!</p>

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Nate “Lowscore” BlOWS!!!!</p>

<p>He’s more concerned about his hair dye each week then winning.</p>

<p>Does anyone know what his career TD to Interception ratio in 4th quarter is now? I think it’s got to be 1 TD to 12 INTs. What a joke!!!!</p>

<p>Here’s to “Big Game” Nate. You SUCK!!!!</p>

<p>I’m just glad he doesn’t play Hoops…</p>

<p>BTW….Cal Hoops looking better then I expected.</p>

<p>Go Bears!!!</p>

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<p>UCB: that's exactly what I'm disagreeing with. Again, I don't doubt their potential, only how they would match up with the best of the best week-in and week-out.</p>

<p>HI has an incredible offense, but again, I have to think LSU's defense would be just slightly stronger than nevada, san jose state, etc. What ever happened to HI's last two qb's, btw? Are they even in the NFL?</p>

<p>Don't think so, vc. Timmy Chang is playing in Canada or something, not sure. See, system quarterbacks get screwed over, unfortuantely.</p>

<p>But Timmy Chang isn't nearly as good at this guy. Timmy Chang threw a lot of passes and quite a few of them were interceptions and he's not nearly as accurate.</p>

<p>yeah, cuz he was supposed to be the next John Elway too, but obviously that didnt work out too well.</p>

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<p>He's playing for the Hamilton Tiger-Cats in the CFL. </p>

<p>Hamilton</a> Tiger-Cats :: Official Site of the Tiger-Cats</p>