<p>I know that you use "who" for the subject of a sentence, and "whom" for the object of a preposition, but what if it's both?</p>
<p>There are several rules that must be followed by WHO(M)EVER wants to be admitted.</p>
<p>How do you know if it's whoever or whomever? My Kaplan book says whoever, but I don't really get it.</p>
<p>OK...ok...I think I got this one.</p>
<p>In this phrase you have a preposition...but the whoever that follows is actually the subject of the clause that follows it and the subject of the verb of the sentence. So even though it follows a preposition, the whoever is actually the subject of who is following the rules.
So you could rearrange it.... Whoever wants to be admitted must follow several rules. (I think that can help you figure it out....I don't know if that would work for everything!)</p>
<p>Does that help?</p>
<p>Oh OK, thanks. Hm... so it being a subject of a clause overrides the preposition part?</p>
<p>Cool username... juggle! :)</p>
<p>if u can replace the sentance with he, it's who. if you can replace the sentance with him, then it's whom.</p>
<p>like... To whom are you giving the book? I am giving it to him. or Who is the best basketball player? He is the best basketball player.</p>
<p>^ Yeah, I know that, but what about whoever vs. whomever?</p>
<p>I just love the fact that mixing up who and whom is enough of a problem to cost someone tons of cash in scholarships and lifetime income</p>
<p>:( yeah. That kinda puts things in perspective...</p>
<p>Can see myself at my job interview a few years from now (embellished)</p>
<p>Boss Guy: Bachelors at USC, Masters at Stanford (embellishment), doctorate at MIT (doubt I'll go that far). Internships at NASA, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, and Scaled composites, and consulted both Scaled composites and the russian space agency (HUGE embellishment). What makes you qualified for the positon?</p>
<p>Me: I think that obvious (As if I'll actually ever become qualified for anything)</p>
<p>BG: What do you think of the other job applicants?</p>
<p>Me: I'm sure whoever applied is qualified, sir/ma'am</p>
<p>BG: Wait, did you say whoever?! It's whomever!</p>
<p>Me: Sorry sir/ma'am. I didn't think it mattered too much</p>
<p>BG: of course it matters! It is the end-all of all matter-type-issues! If i was the pope i'd excummnicate you straight to hell!</p>
<p>Me: but your not the pope.</p>
<p>BG: Insubordination! You're fired!</p>
<p>Me: you have to hire me first.</p>
<p>BG: GET OUT! (tyrade continues)</p>
<p>Then again, i just may have gotten who/whom mixed up just there. if i did, don't feel free to correct me.</p>
<p>thecomisar- Thanks ;) And yep, it being the subject overrides the preposition part. I'm pretty sure this is because the preposition is only there because you took a sentence where you could start with Whoever and rearranged it....the preposition just connects the parts. Gotta love grammar, lol.</p>
<p>i didn't know thw answer to your question comisar. but now i do</p>
<p>haha awesome :)</p>
<p>Did you guys know that it's incorrect to start a sentence with "hopefully"? Like
Hopefully, our team will win.
That's wrong! Arghh.</p>
<p>I did!!!! Yay!!!</p>
<p>it should be like this:</p>
<p>"The girl ate her hat hopefully"</p>
<p>how's that for an example sentence?</p>
<p>^ haha yeah, that's right. You used it as an adverb, as it should be used.</p>