<p>Yes Percy, for all the intellect the Wharton student must muster for the challenging disciplines of Finance & OPIM, those studying the likes of Physics, Biochemistry, and the classics of Western civilization certainly cant compare. And this of course, by your sound logic, is because of a lower acceptance rate at Wharton (due in part to the school being 1/3 the size of CAS and having virtually no competition for students at the undergraduate level).
Marginal differences in the rankings between schools, especially when both are at such a high level and focus on different areas, don't trickle down to affect the intellect of their student bodies especially since there isn't space for all the very best at the "tippy top". Your claim that there is even a marginal difference is just plain dumb.</p>
<p>ok now that i have actually logged onto this website for the first time in three months or so, i would like to formally apologize to everyone for my best friend's slight retardedness in starting this thread/eliciting any negative comments and reactions....</p>
<p>the question i had orginally asked him to post actually went something along the lines of this:</p>
<p>i want to apply to the lsm program early, and i had originally considered putting wharton as the second option. but now, i'm having second thoughts. i like penn a lot and i'm familiar with all of the great opportunities students there have, and i hope to be one of them in the future. just to sort of 'up my chances' i guess, i was wondering if i could basically do the same thing that the lsm program people do in the college as well, just because the college takes a larger number of people</p>
<p>any thoughts on this new idea?</p>
<p>again, sincere apologies to anyone who was offended</p>
<p>yes you can recreate a 'program' that is similar to LSM on your own while enrolled in the College/Wharton if you take the right classes. Only the LSM intro seminar and the capstone seminar you wont have access to.</p>
<p>But it would be very hard to do so with a manageable course load. LSM and the other joint degree programs have special advising and sessions that let you plan out your courses and squeeze out of requirements.</p>
<p>Frankly, the question you should be asking yourself to decide between Wharton and CAS is, "If I don't get into Penn at all, where will I go? A business program or a biology/life sciences program?"</p>
<p>"But average to average, the average Wharton student is a little smarter than the average CAS student. Not a lot, but a little - whatever the distance is from tippy top to top- that much smarter. It doesn't mean much really, but it's true."</p>
<p>BS. Truth be told, there's really not much difference in "intelligence" between students in the USNWR top 20 schools or even a flagship state U honors program. These days, the difference for acceptance to the "tippy top" schools is the hook: legacy, URM, athlete, exceptional ECs; NOT intelligence, GPAs or SAT scores.</p>
<p>Percy, your arm must get tired from patting yourself on the back all of the time.</p>
<p>OK, I give up - despite the statistical evidence that there is a (slight) difference in things like average SAT score, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHARTON and CAS STUDENTS. None, nada, rien, not at all. No difference in job opportunities, starting salary, nyet. Womyn's Studies or Finance major - the i-banks could care less. No difference in desirability of getting in or application rates. No difference in anything whatsoever, at all. Just flip a coin as to which one you want to attend. Are you satisfied now?</p>
<p>Of course there's a difference. One is the best school for business, bar none. If you're sure you want to go into business and want to focus on that undergrad, Wharton is the most desirable place to be. However, if you're not sure, interested in a different field, or want a more rounded education before going into the workforce, go either CAS or elsewhere. Believe it or not, not every one wants to go into i-banking (the horror!)</p>
<p>BTW, I do believe Wharton students on average have better quantitative skills than CAS students because that is one of the things Wharton selects for.</p>
<p>Question Percy: Do you think the average Wharton student has better writing skills than the average CAS student?</p>
<p>I think Wharton average SAT CR / W score may actually be a little higher than CAS, for what that is worth.</p>
<p>I'd love to see proof, but at the very least I know mine is higher than yours, unless you got a perfect score.</p>
<p>Highly doubt it Percy. Most of the Wharton kids I know fear writing a paper like the plague. Now, while I laugh at the prospect of writing a paper, I cringe at the thought of working with numbers. At least I can honestly say that, but I doubt that the avg. SAT score for Wharton tops the avg. for CAS in writing.</p>
<p>@Percy
IMO People who are feeling secure and self-confident don't really care if other people question/belittle them. People who are feeling insecure almost always balk at whoever trying to belittle them.</p>
<p>if anything, I'd argue that you're average SAS and/or SEAS student is smarter than your average wharton student. so many of the wharton kids got to where they are by being obsessive workaholics, whereas at the other schools the students tend to be a bit more relaxed, at least until they get to college (i think it's unquestionable that the science majors and engineers have tougher workloads than the wharton students). that sort of difference in attitude to more than explains the minute differences in scores.</p>
<p>My question to both of you is.. why are either of you sitting in your dorm on "college confidential" on a thursday night at 11pm. go out, get a life, stop arguing over this stupid ****. Everyone here should know that SAT's really have almost nothing to do with your true intelligence anyways. Plenty of Wharton students have gone on to write books and plenty of SAS students work at Goldman.</p>