Why average isn't so average

<p>I posted a comment a couple days ago about the average M/CR score at Wharton being 1430. Today I came across some new information that led me to realize how skewed that number actually is.</p>

<p>There is an all girls private high school near me, and i'm friends with a student there. Both of us are applyign ED to Penn, so we're always talking about it.Turns out that a girl there has already recieved a likely letter, or some form of early notification, and she's pretty much been admitted into Wharton. Apparantly she's a fabulous field hockey player and she's going to play on Penn's team.........but her SAT's are 1760. </p>

<p>That made me realize that the "average" 1430 is taking into account all of the scores like that. I used to think the average was an accurate measurment of the requried SAT, but i was oblivious to the fact that such elite schools are so leniant with thier recruited athletes....</p>

<p>Things like this make me wish i had spent more time playing lacrosse, and less time studying</p>

<p>LMAO Welcome to the real world!</p>

<p>If they don't admit us b/c we aren't athletes, then they are making the same mistake that Harvard made with Warren Buffett in 1953</p>

<p>1760??? For a moment I actually went out of my mind and thought "it must be 1760/1600" lol</p>

<p>I know she's an athlete but c'mon 1760??? And to Wharton?</p>

<p>hahaha yea....1760/2400...........i thought they cut athletes some slack, maybe a 1900 here and there, but 1760 :(</p>

<p>1760? I guess getting a high GPA at Wharton will be easier than I thought...</p>

<p>hahahaha good call, if i do get in i'll love all the athletes that got accepted</p>

<p>not surprising. most of the recruited athletes end up in wharton.</p>

<p>really? i just assumed they'd ended up at CAS. Do you know why they end up at Wharton?</p>

<p>In truth, probably because Wharton's the only thing that will draw them away from HYP since all the Ivy schools pretty much recruit the same people (most athletes I know could have picked to go to any of them).</p>

<p>But yeah, 1800s and such are pretty common scores for athletes. And it's not only Penn that cuts athletes this kind of slack - the rest of the Ivys all do it too.</p>

<p>but 1760? </p>

<p>I recently spoke to someone who was an athlete and applied ed to cornell. the coach promised she was in. Was even asking her about sneaker sizes. Then she got deferred... so likely letters don't always mean acceptances</p>

<p>uh oh, so they're sending out "likely letters"? Has anyone else gotten one? Because I haven't..</p>

<p>Hopefully those letters are only for athletes!</p>

<p>We have had a few Pton recruits at my school. All are pretty below average. I'd say SAT averages are always VERY skewed.</p>

<p>effrum: you also have to account for all of the kids whose daddys. grandaddys, mommys, grandmommys (you get the picture) have donated multi-milliions to the school.....i can't imagine that all of their SAT's are over 1400 either......that's for every school though, not just Wharton or Penn......</p>

<p>That's why a normal applicant (without such obvious hooks as being a developmental applicant or recruit athlete) should aim to have SAT/ACT scores above the school average to be really safe.</p>

<p>The bottom 25% have really bad scores so would drag the SAT average of the student body down by quite a bit, and thus the statistic is often untrustworthy, unfortunately :(.</p>

<p>I think a lot of athletes end up in Wharton because business is something that requires teamwork and social skills just as much as intelligence, and athletes are usually much better than an average Ivy student in those respects.</p>

<p>I know a 1600 who's already into Cornell for lacrosse, a 1720 already into Harvard for hockey (he was drafted by the Tampa Bay Lightning), and another hockey player who needs a 1900 to get into Princeton. It's better to be athletic than intelligent</p>

<p>not really, some people do not understand the effort, the time, and the stress one has to go through play well enough in a sport to go division I. athletes that get scholarships for athletics to colleges must go through countless hours of practices just like a really smart and high acheiving student must spend many hours on SAT's, getting good grades, and getting involved in EC's.</p>

<p>true that ^^^^^ dont think that athletes just play and get in. They spend countless hours weeks after weeks practicing and praciticing rigorously.</p>

<p>Not to mention that one bad injury = bye bye recruitment</p>

<p>i'm an athlete and i'll be the first person to tell you that we play because we love it. I'd MUCH rather have spent my hours studying for the SAT on a lacrosse field. Lacrosse is fun, practice is fun, working out is fun, SATs are the anti-fun. I seriously regret not workign ym ass off to become an all star player, then i'd be much less nervous about college</p>