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And I hate it when people throw around the word "nerd" as the ultimate insult- it just means intellectually curious, not "plodder," "boring," "no social life," or anything else! I don't understand why it's a BAD thing now to achieve academically- if you think so, what are you doing on this site? Don't make stupid assumptions about other people either.
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I didn't like the use of the word "nerd" either but i think he means study freak or something.</p>
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Yes, I do study for less than 2 hours a day. If you read my entire post, I'm not exactly proud of it.
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sigh, it really depends on your school. so yes, it's definitely possible--just because it's impossible at your school doesn't mean it applies everywhere else.</p>
<p>But in the end, the chair usually recognizes the person who goes up and speaks, even if it is to give credit to less spoken countries. MUN is probably the best example of a "good" EC that takes 90% charisma/BS and 10% research, sadly enough. I've never met anyone at my school that really slaves over research for MUN, and our school usually takes home the top prize at every conference. Not bragging, just putting the truth out there.</p>
<p>After reading this thread I want to add one comment. IQ is only a measure of potential, and should therefore never be used for college admissions.</p>
<p>if you can get a 4.0 and a 2350+ by studying less than 2 hours a day with 6 AP classes, then your either a nerd who needs to play some sports or get some action or your school has massive grade inflation or both...</p>
<p>Well, yes. gk4. Personally, I've won awards from major MUN conferences. But, unlike most who TRY to screw over others, I try to be the nice person who includes the people who are not chrimastic enough to carry the committee. Yes, I'm that girl raising her placard x43554 per second, getting yields from people because I was nice to them while speaking at every opportunity. </p>
<p>It's how you say it. It's true. In my school, you must take a class to become a delegate--and you must be a leader/successful at conferences to go on future conferences. And, screwing over others is not allowed in my school though overkill research is heavily encouraged. We haven't really won BIG awards in recent years. I'm hoping that my next MUN conference is FTW. It's my last conference and I plan on dominating with my partner!</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, I will be chairing my own committee soon. And soon, those who don't work hard will be screwed over because I will not be turning a blind eye to unethical things.</p>
<p>I don't care how genetically smart you are... you can't ace a college bio test without even opening the textbook. You need to study 2+ hours for the test. Maybe it's just my school cause my teacher's lecture is right off the book and her lectures are very general/vague</p>
<p>Lol, i agree with Bio being pretty much strictly memorization (and therefore nobody is born with the knowledge). But other subjects (especially math) we can't make the same generalization. It's your school, lol, so you probably know best. At mine it's a bit different.</p>
<p>The admission officer that spoke to us when we visited Columbia insisted that one of the most important tasks of the Admissions Committee was to make up a class that would be interesting and challenging enough to make their teachers happy and wanting to teach. And unless you applied you wouldn't know if you had something to offer that they wanted. They know you all are intellectually capable. Interesting enough? That's another story.</p>
<p>That was one of the many things he said and his presentation was by far the best one of all the ones we attended.</p>
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But other subjects (especially math) we can't make the same generalization. It's your school, lol, so you probably know best. At mine it's a bit different.
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you're pretty wrong here. no one knows that he or she can do a problem until he or she has been given the tools to do the problem.</p>
<p>"I don't care how genetically smart you are... you can't ace a college bio test without even opening the textbook. You need to study 2+ hours for the test. Maybe it's just my school cause my teacher's lecture is right off the book and her lectures are very general/vague"</p>
<p>It's very possible to study less than 2 hours for a biology test. If the teacher is even decent, most of the material should be covered/supplemented by notes, labs, and class activities.</p>
<p>well the "tools" to math are pretty easy. sure, you're not born knowing the pythagorean theorum, but the amount of stuff you memorize <<< the amount of stuff you actually have to ... like... just know. Try looking up some advanced proofs, and I can give you all the tools you'll need but most of it is pretty intuitive.</p>
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It's very possible to study less than 2 hours for a biology test. If the teacher is even decent, most of the material should be covered/supplemented by notes, labs, and class activities.
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you won't/shouldn't have teachers like that at the college level. teachers like that don't foster mature studying habits.</p>
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well the "tools" to math are pretty easy.
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hmmm... how far are you in math? :P</p>
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Try looking up some advanced proofs, and I can give you all the tools you'll need but most of it is pretty intuitive.
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i agree with Bio being pretty much strictly memorization (and therefore nobody is born with the knowledge). But other subjects (especially math) we can't make the same generalization.
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please read what you posted. you were talking about "knowledge" which is something that one must obtain through learning; natural talent is not a substitute for knowledge. basically you are agreeing with what i was saying.</p>
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lol. i suck at math. and i agree that knowledge is something that is acquired through learning, however if you compare biology (which is like 90% memorization, 10% conceptual/visualization) and math (which is like 90% conceptual/visualization and 10% memorization) it's more possible to have a "natural talent" for math and for being able to visualize things than in biology.</p>
<p>compared to the boatload of stuff you have to memorize for biology if you even go into such a field that makes up the bulk of the subject, the memorization part of math is much easier than the visualization part >_> people spend years trying to prove a single formula lol</p>