<p>You’re right, again, comfortablycurt. Honestly, smoke is no more different than those who wear too much perfume or even someone driving past you who’s car you smell long after it’s gone. </p>
<p>Obnoxious smells are obnoxious smells. </p>
<p>Yes, cigarette’s smell bad to some. Yes, perfume can smell bad. I dislike the scent of perfume just as much as I dislike the scent of cigarette smoke. The difference is one can harm my health. I’m not saying smoking should be banned in public places, I just think the two can’t really be compared.</p>
<p>@stacks13 What harm does secondhand smoke bring? If you’re passing someone on the street who is smoking, what short- or long-term adverse effects will you experience?</p>
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Wrong. Virtually all smokers smoke because they are addicted to a powerfully addictive drug. Anything they say to the contrary is a rationalization. It’s difficult to stop smoking–very difficult for most smokers.</p>
<p>It is a very, very bad idea to start smoking in college. Some of the damage you do to your lungs is irreversible, even if you stop later.</p>
<p>Studies that demonstrate risks of second-hand smoke focus on enclosed spaces with high concentrations of smoke, like a smoker’s living room or car. Outdoors, that cloud of Diesel exhaust you get when a construction vehicle passes is almost certainly more hazardous than the cloud of cigarette smoke you get near a doorway.</p>
<p>As to smell, that’s just an inconvenience. I’m personally disgusted when someone down the hall microwaves a bag of popcorn. I don’t get on some high horse about it.</p>
<p>I actually haven’t seen a single smoker at my large state school. I don’t think people smoke cigarettes as much as they used to. I personally don’t like the idea of smoking, but as long as they’re not standing next to me and wafting the smoke in my face, it’s not that big a deal. </p>
<p>As an aside: Wow! We have a lot of smokers on College Life! I’m guessing this demographic is a bit different than its high school counterpart. To each their own, I guess. </p>
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That’s an odd conclusion given that one person on this thread has said they smoked. </p>
<p>I noticed the smokers here too - and I live in a very liberal state where smoking is by and large frowned upon and a lot of local governments have been pushing against tobacco sales in certain venues. When I walk out of a building to the quad, it is jam packed with people smoking. It’s really odd, especially since I knew of only one or two people at my high school who smoked. </p>
<p>I have nothing against smoking, it just seemed very concentrated at my college. I go to a commuter school that has a very mixed population of traditional and non-traditional students, many of which are older/veterans/returning from the workforce, etc, so I’m not gonna push my 18 year old values on what they choose to do or not do. </p>
<p>As already mentioned, the argument about health effects from second hand smoke are irrelevant here. You’re not going to have adverse health effects as a result of walking past a group of people who are smoking and getting a quick scent of it. Second hand smoke can be very damaging, but only with large amounts of constant exposure. The air pollution that you’re breathing in every second of every day is going to have a larger impact on your health than a few seconds worth of second hand smoke every day. </p>
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<p>Actually, <a href=“http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/13/3/219.full”>http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/13/3/219.full</a> suggests that cigarettes are “competitive” with diesel engines in particulate emissions. Of course, the emissions from a diesel engine depends on how old it is (older = less stringent emissions limits), whether it is an on-road or off-road vehicle (off-road = less stringent emissions limits), and what type of vehicle it is (heavy trucks have less stringent emissions limits than cars or light trucks).</p>
<p>Nobody quoted me directly, but they tried to counter what I said as if I think all smokers are stupid. </p>
<p>I have friends that smoke, that do not smoke on campus. They follow the rules, and smoke elsewhere. It’s not complicated, they have the self-control to wait a few hours and smoke off-campus. </p>
<p>" If they can’t make it until the end of the day to smoke, I can’t see them making it through college. "</p>
<p>Why on Earth would stepping out to the parking lot for 10 minutes to have a cigarette prevent someone from making it through college? Even if it is a self control issue…I can’t see how it has any bearing on their academic ability. </p>
<p>It’s no different than another student going to the lounge or having a snack in between classes. What? You don’t have enough self control to wait until the end of the day to sit down or have a snack?</p>
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<p>Speak for yourself. I am allergic to tobacco. I get hives from very little exposure. It’s why I don’t smoke, don’t allow smoking in my house, and stick to non-smoking areas. If people want to ruin their lungs in smoking areas, that’s their business. I’m not going to walk past them because I respect that that’s THEIR area. I wish they’d have the same respect in our non-smoking areas. </p>
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My speculation may be in error, but that study isn’t the best one to cite to demonstrate that, since it examines indoor conditions.</p>
<p>Anyone that thinks smoking is good cause smart famous people smoked is wrong. They didn’t know that it was bad. And the American Indians smoked for religious ceremonies and stuff like that but that still doesn’t make it good. People who smoke are not bad just cause they make bad choices. But there isn’t any way you can compare craving a smoke and craving food. You wont die if you eat some fatty and sugary food sometimes. And the problem with tobacco isn’t the tobacco its the 300 other gross chemicals they put in it to get you addicted. Try reading a list of what they put in them and you probably cant even say most of the words.</p>
<p>How isn’t it comparable? People don’t need to eat the pounds of sugar that they’re consuming on a daily basis, and yet they do because those foods are addictive. There are plenty of foods have some pretty bad health effects if you eat them on a daily basis. </p>
<p>It’s mainly a social thing, but some students (myself included) do it to relax once in a while. As long as smokers stay away from buildings/entrances and dispose of their buttes properly, I don’t see why it’s anyone else’s business.</p>
<p>Everyone has a vice, so hold off on the judgements.</p>
<p>But you shouldn’t start smoking to relax. That is bad. And if all smokers paid for their own medical expenses instead of asking everyone else to chip in and help then yeah it would be nobody else’s business. And wanting something tasty to eat isn’t being addicted to food. And at least you get some nutrition out of it. You get nothing from smoking except for a 5 minute buzz. And that is bad.</p>
<p>put your fedoras away, if people like to smoke whatever but lets not act like its actually GOOD for you lmao</p>
<p>Who in here has even suggested that smoking is good for you? </p>